MSQ teleports - A simple band-aid for discouragement of new players in ARR

[Gemina]

What the heck is the point of becoming a tank and joining your friend on a tedious MSQ fetch quest?

Where did I say that? Don't quote and entire post if you don't even read the whole thing.

I'm saying to stop complaining and just eat the quests like the rest of us have. And if anyone wants to help their friends to progress faster, stop asking the devs to rework old content. Instead, when they get to a stopping point and sit in a specific queue for 40+ minutes, then freakin tank for them.

[bass9020]

What the heck is the point of becoming a tank and joining your friend on a tedious MSQ fetch quest?

You are so hostile to everyone for no reason lol take a chill and relaxxxxxxxxx

[Edax]

Where did I say that? Don't quote and entire post if you don't even read the whole thing.

I'm saying to stop complaining and just eat the quests like the rest of us have. And if anyone wants to help their friends to progress faster, stop asking the devs to rework old content. Instead, when they get to a stopping point and sit in a specific queue for 40+ minutes, then freakin tank for them.

Is so many players are just leaving the game because of the AAR MSQ, then telling them to "Buy a potion and call it a day" is to completely miss the point.

[Penthea]

Is so many players are just leaving the game because of the AAR MSQ, then telling them to "Buy a potion and call it a day" is to completely miss the point.

I think you exaggerate how many players leave the game because of this. It is fairly common for people to find this part of the msq irritating but I think SE would have done something by now if "so many" were outright quitting over it.

[Edax]

I think you exaggerate how many players leave the game because of this. It is fairly common for people to find this part of the msq irritating but I think SE would have done something by now if "so many" were outright quitting over it.

I admit, I don't exactly have the figures of how many new players leave the game because of the MSQ. I can only speak for myself that I left the game because of it. Bought it at the same time as a friend, we played together for a bit, but I got bored and left, and didn't come back until like 16 months later after my friend convinced me to try the Trials of Bahamut – Real Escape Game at AX.

[NocturniaUzuki]

In all the years I played Runescape, I never felt like the game suffered from dead content, because they was so much to do at all times.

RuneScape is the one game I know of that is actually unique in this way. As long as you don't care about noXPwaste culture, there is surprisingly little dead content. Largely because you don't need other players to go use an obsolete training method, etc. As long as it's fun, that's what matters.

Though there is still some dead content with team minigames and so on.

If you look at any standard progression MMO, though, dead content is everywhere.

[Gemina]

I admit, I don't exactly have the figures of how many new players leave the game because of the MSQ. I can only speak for myself that I left the game because of it. Bought it at the same time as a friend, we played together for a bit, but I got bored and left, and didn't come back until like 16 months later after my friend convinced me to try the Trials of Bahamut – Real Escape Game at AX.

I'm sure the number is few. I can also admit that msq grinding can be quite tedious in more than several occasions. But griping about it is akin to going to a Disney musical and then groan about all the singing.

This is unquestionably a story driven mmo, and if you want to know why in one cut scene everything looks fine and dandy, but then for some reason you are in a fiery ring of doom facing a story boss in the next; you're going to have to do some reading and some viewing.

We all know it's grindy. But it's not so extensive to prevent a player from getting caught up unless it's just too much for them to personally go through. There are the options like the potions for these players. But for those who do want to experience the msq, they should be allowed to do so without pressure to quickly reach endgame.

[Vexander]

But that would take away from mogstation sales, lawd knows we gotta sell them boost and them 12 dollar single emotes.

This is an unfairly harsh criticism of the Mog Station and SE's sales practices. They're implementing World Visiting, which is going to drastically REDUCE the sale of Server Transfers, and reduce the sales on the Mogstation as a result. They're actively de-incentivizing one of their cash shop services. Most of what is on the Mog Station is purely cosmetic or convenience as is.

[Daethir]

I'm a new players, I started playing around 2 weeks ago, and I agree they need to do something about the MSQ. I like the game a lot but I'll have a hard time convincing my friends to play it with me because they already quit the game over it a couple of years ago and I can understand why. I personally can stomach it because I don't really mind doing repetitive task but it really need some trimming to please the general audience.

To me there's two main problems :
- The absurdly hight number of fetch quest. I've played dozen of different mmo and ff14 is by far the one with the hightest amount of them. Usually mmo are 80% kill or collect object quest and 20% fetch quest, in ff14 it's the opposite ! I think I've spend at least half of my 60 hours of ig time watching my character walking from point A to point B to point C to point A again ... Those quest are supposed to be filler not the meat of your game ! They should drastically reduce their number and increase the amount of kill quest, I want to play my character not summon my chocobo, press R and wait.
- The story, I've watched every cinematic because I've heard the story of this game is great ... well I think I can summarize everything that happen to me between lvl 1 to 40 in two sentences. 90% of the MSQ are filler, it usually goes like this : something dangerous is going to happen, you need to ask some npc to guide you to the source of said danger, then the npc ask you to do 30 quests for him to prove your worth ... I want to do heroic deeds like fighting the empire or the primordial, not help a has been make wine. They should remove all of those filler quest from the MSQ and make them optional side quest.

Also everyone here seems to have a strong opinion on the no aetheryte in the walking sand subject so here's my take : I had trouble understanding why one of the city you frequent the most didn't have any, then I read the lore explanation in this thread. The explanation make sense lore wise, but why did they create such a lore in the first place ? Knowing the reason why you can't teleport into the city doesn't magically make it less annoying. When your lore get in the way of gameplay to that extends it's not a good thing, I wonder how such a bad game design decision made it into the final game.

[Daethir]

I started a new character on a different server I was well in my 20s before the 1st dungeon. Doing mainly just msq.

You can level up doing the MSQ only up to level 35, after that you have to do side content or you're stuck.