Blue Mage might actually be a good thing.

[Lyden]

I'm not against the open world aspect nor the Carnival and would like to see all jobs get things like this.

But it doesn't and isn't, the BLU is now designt as he is, and cry about this won't change anything, cause he is the BLUsheep where carringa whole type of content... cant imagine how many ppl would be mad if BLU would be a Tank and loss tons of skills cause of this idea
But there are tons of descitions which wont suit for everyone like AST for example, its a Timemage meets Corsair of FFXI and the idea is out of FFT brought up as a FFXIV Original class.... now we reached Kugane and we learned we are a space version of a Geomancer ... oh boi i was so mad XD
It dosnt suits my expectation of GEO or Timemage for me but i learned to love this class as it is not as i had wished for.... and so do i handle the BLU we dont know where this jurney will lead us maybe we will get the same evolution like SMN got for his role and glam pets... maybe the whole world will change and how we play in it... we arent able to say anything about it we just have to wait and see.

TBH call it "limited job" sounds rly shattering.... i had called it "unlimited job" cause he will going unbalanced and broken ....suits for my expertation much more XD

[jon041065]

Negative feedback can and has changed things.

Yes, there is no way to please everyone but there is a way to please a lot more players than what they have right now.

Calling it ulimited or anything else won't change the fact that it is unable to function in the full game and myself and the rest would still be unhappy with it.

[Darkpaw]

Yes now it's a caster. I meant that it could have been a tank or melee back during the design stage. And yes, I rather have yet another caster that follows a basic formula that I can do all content with than what has been proposed. If I wanted something else, I'd go play a game that had something like that. I'm not against the open world aspect nor the Carnival and would like to see all jobs get things like this.

And that is fine each person has their own desires. I'm no exception but they have to look at the community and the future of the game in general and how to grow the game as best as they can. We owe it to them to give it a decent chance. They didn't give up on this game after 1.0, we shouldn't give up on them even if this is a misstep. Give feed back when the time is right.

[Darkpaw]

Negative feedback can and has changed things.

Yes, there is no way to please everyone but there is a way to please a lot more players than what they have right now.

Calling it ulimited or anything else won't change the fact that it is unable to function in the full game and myself and the rest would still be unhappy with it.

Please try to keep in mind we can only assess a small portion of the player base we are exposed to. There are two other full regions of this game with many many more players than what we see on forums, on reddit, on youtube, on twitch.. all with their own opinions, their own expectations, we truly can't say how many people are happy with this implementation and how many are not.. we simply we do not know. speculating that the "majority" of this game's community is unhappy with this isn't going to do anyone any good.

[Lyden]

*sigh* Yoshida said, they cant bring up jobs like BLU cause they cant make everyone happy with it.

Better to have not a BLU ingame than, cause some ppl are not happy about it?
Or better start a with a version of a BLU mage and let them grow into this game?
Its such a wonderful game with tons of stuff and all cry about a single class...cause it doesnt taste like the guys had wished for?
And your "Negative feedbackcan and has changed things" sounds like a spoiled child which is going to hold on the breath until its knoked out... when u play a tabletop or in generell a boardgame ....a offline titel or mobile titel ...and the rule of the game ( main rule which is set by the Choice of the Gamedesigner not the choice of the players) isnt like u wished for ... do u think they change the whole idea cause of some spoiled kids ( more alarming if its not kids than adults acting like this)?
Guess not, u woul let down those games ... and trust me BLU cant be the reason for quit a game which has 15 other jobs and maybe a upcoming Dancer or Gunblader = ___=)" this would be also childish...

[jon041065]

And that is fine each person has their own desires. I'm no exception but they have to look at the community and the future of the game in general and how to grow the game as best as they can. We owe it to them to give it a decent chance. They didn't give up on this game after 1.0, we shouldn't give up on them even if this is a misstep. Give feed back when the time is right.

Right now is the best time for feedback because a lot of us believe the fundamentals of the concept is highly flawed and the earlier we make that known the better.

Like I told the other poster, there is no way they can please everyone. There is absolutely a middle ground that can be found that will result in a net increase of happy and excited players.

[jon041065]

*sigh* Yoshida said, they cant bring up jobs like BLU cause they cant make everyone happy with it.

Better to have not a BLU ingame than, cause some ppl are not happy about it?
Or better start a with a version of a BLU mage and let them grow into this game?
Its such a wonderful game with tons of stuff and all cry about a single class...cause it doesnt taste like the guys had wished for?
And your "Negative feedbackcan and has changed things" sounds like a spoiled child which is going to hold on the breath until its knoked out... when u play a tabletop or in generell a boardgame ....a offline titel or mobile titel ...and the rule of the game ( main rule which is set by the Choice of the Gamedesigner not the choice of the players) isnt like u wished for ... do u think they change the whole idea cause of some spoiled kids ( more alarming if its not kids than adults acting like this)?
Guess not, u woul let down those games ... and trust me BLU cant be the reason for quit a game which has 15 other jobs and maybe a upcoming Dancer or Gunblader = ___=)" this would be also childish...

There being other jobs to come has nothing to do with us being upset over the concept of limited jobs. This is about us not wanting to support a design direction that we feel will hurt the game in the end.

[jon041065]

Please try to keep in mind we can only assess a small portion of the player base we are exposed to. There are two other full regions of this game with many many more players than what we see on forums, on reddit, on youtube, on twitch.. all with their own opinions, their own expectations, we truly can't say how many people are happy with this implementation and how many are not.. we simply we do not know. speculating that the "majority" of this game's community is unhappy with this isn't going to do anyone any good.

I agree with you. From what I've seen, the japanese boards are more responses of "we will like blu either way" and that "it's a minigame". They are mostly neutral on the whole thing like I would suspect most players are. I'd wager that there are more people against the idea of limited jobs than there are those in favor. And then a very small portion of the playerbase against side and open world content. Those in the last group I think we can agree shouldn't be listened to.

[Darkpaw]

Right now is the best time for feedback because a lot of us believe the fundamentals of the concept is highly flawed and the earlier we make that known the better.

Like I told the other poster, there is no way they can please everyone. There is absolutely a middle ground that can be found that will result in a net increase of happy and excited players.

And there in lies the crux of your argument. This is not the right time for feed back because once again we don't know the full fundamentals of this conceptual system because we have not experienced it yet. This is like me saying "The concept of trusting a rubber rope to support my weight when I jump off this bridge is ridiculous so I immediate hate this experience. Without ever trying it. We never know anything for sure until we experience it. We have only a loose understanding of the "limited job" system. We have the bare bones basics that they were willing to share with us. We have no idea what their future plans are, how this system will evolve over time, or even how it works now. We don't know what possibilities it will open up for us as players. What experiences it could bring to us. There are so many more questions then there are answers right now. This is why I've been stating patience is key. Just give things a chance. My lord if no one took any risks with status quo.. we'd still be basing our understanding of Human Anatomy on the observations of an ancient greek man who never even dissected a human body.

[Lyden]

And WE appreciate new ideas which set us appart from other MMORPGS ? Oo


The YT dude "Work To Game" had many points left about FF14 and BLU is a right step in the right direction (cause we work all the time the same tomestone 4parts of a raid with a single boss trial conent like we did in FF14 2.0)... and YES its make a huge diffrence to have a class which is "limited" system and the others not, cause its the first try to implement a system which is totaly new and maybe a alternative way for endcontent like "dutyfinderparty-dps-wait-queu game!"
So many ppl which had wait exactly for content and include the class like this, we have 1 out of 3 fan festivals which will show us the content, "limited" only was the whole content WE had see maybe with all fan festivals BLU will make much more sense to us all.
im not who u are and why u talk in WE but i can only talk for myself at the end, and i know tons of ppl mostly DoH and DoL which need this and happy about this, we have already a WoW which is based on raids only so from the "Be-point" of few this concept work very well and maybe even more in the future.

WE will see dear John WE will see!