BLU for Duty Finder and Raids! Show your support!

[Skyskip]

Heh.. couldn't help myself:

Although I still like/feel like "both, both is nice" is my favorite choice lol.

Like once they've cleared content (doesn't matter if it's on blue mage, but could be), they leave behind a growing blue magic spell (mist?). After some time for their blue magic mist to develop they can enter these dungeons with their full potential (the mist enhancing and supporting their more dangerous magics, level 5 death in turn 5 coil unlocked :3). The time to develop the mist being code for "once the devs have decided to let you in".

lol okay you actually got a laugh out of me there.

But yeah, if we were just waiting for them to finish BLU so it was ready for the rest of the game, it would be fine. It would suck to be held back at level 50 for a while but it would be tolerable. At this point, however, it's not even on the table. Hence the anger. All they have to do is come out and say 'hey listen, BLU is complicated, so give us some time to finish it for all content, beta test it for us in the meantime' and all this anger would disappear overnight.

[JBee]

'hey listen, BLU is complicated, so give us some time to finish it for all content, beta test it for us in the meantime' and all this anger would disappear overnight.

I agree with this - had it been presented as something new, and they wanted some community feedback going forward, so instead of releasing it as a full job they were instead releasing it as a limited job - TO START WITH - then I doubt there would be nearly as much nerd rage. I would have been a little chuffed, but I would have at least been like, well they care enough to get this right, so ok, yeah, sure.

But no - they didn't say you couldn't queue solo for things FOR NOW, they said you couldn't period. They even went to the trouble to put it on ANOTHER slide, with a frowny face with a tear. Boo hoo, sad you can't do this, oh well. I think that came across a little snarkier than they intended though, so I took that with a grain of salt, but the message was still clear.

This is what it is. The levels will go up over time, the abilities you can learn will expand, but it will be forever Lord of VerBLU - unless they change course.

[Elerus]

I honestly find the whole "limited job" system obnoxious. I spoke with a longtime friend today and the topic of FFXIV came up. He had heard that a new expansion had been announced. He's not played in probably about a year but he was curious what some of the new features were. He's also an oldschool FF fan (we both adore FFVI) so when I mentioned Blue Mage it got his attention.

Then I had to explain the limitation system and the only thing he kept asking was "why"?

"Why can't I use it to play the rest of the game?"

"Why is Blue Mage being singled out for an experiment?"

"I can't even use it to go through the story?"

Needless to say he is still not subscribed. I think that says something profoundly bad when a big upcoming patch "feature" actually confuses and decreases a potential customers willingness to jump into the game.

[Astarotha]

i think the best course is when we get our hands on the class, play the shit out of it and enjoy it, but do give good feedback on problem spots or ways the current implementation could be tweaked to work with all content, and wait and see what the devs decide going into 5.0, while i think with a few choice tweaks and adherence to FF/rpg conventions blue could totally work with all content, i dont know the spread of abilities yet because the class isnt out yet (i can guess by going through the list of blue magic in previous games but thats not a guarantee)

am super hyped to play blum, i am sad i cant main it though cause its one of the few classes that could pull me away from smn

[DamianFatale]

How to make Blue Mage work for duty finder.

- Make it so that you have to have a minimum number of skills. Since there are going to be A LOT, don’t require them all. Just enough to be in a duty.

- Ban the overuse, or complete use of certain skills. Limiting the number of super strong skills that you can have in rotation, uses of those skills per fight, or what they can be used on would work.

- Add categories to the skills. Minor, Intermediate, Major, and Ultimate. Minor, and Intermediate skills could be free to use in unlimited quantities. Major, and Ultimate would obviously have more restrictions.

- Keep Blue Mages unique non instanced leveling system. Make it so that they either don’t get as much EXP, or don’t get any at all in instances. I like this challenge, and life it would bring to the worlds. There’s nothing wrong with that. We just want to use the class in the party finder if we so choose.

- If Blue is able to tank, heal, and dps, make four different background colored icons that can be used in party finder, but keep the symbol of the job the same. These would be blue for tanks, green for healers, red for dps, and a fourth color for hybrids. This fourth color could be anything. I suggest purple, or white. However, I could see “hybrid” roles not being allowed in duty finder.

- Raise the level cap to 80 by 4.1

Seriously. Let people use the class for the entirety of Shadowbringers. There is no reason we shouldn’t be able to.

[BubblyBoar]

If they came out and said that in the future, BLU could do content just like every other class, there would be no issues. But they gave sorry excuses for not ever doing it and that's just terrible for a beloved class.

[Rayo]

wait, I thought BLU was allowed in content so as long as its with a filled out pre-formed party, you know like if they joined with friends or started a Party finder with a filled party. After all they never said it couldn't do party content, they said it couldn't join duties with matchmaking (PUGs), Duty Roulette (dalies), PVP and Deep Dungeons

[Skyskip]

wait, I thought BLU was allowed in content so as long as its with a filled out pre-formed party, you know like if they joined with friends or started a Party finder with a filled party. After all they never said it couldn't do party content, they said it couldn't join duties with matchmaking (PUGs), Duty Roulette (dalies), PVP and Deep Dungeons

Those are already unacceptable things to begin with, but during the panel they gave poor examples about how BLU wouldn't be allowed to do Omega M/F because it could essentially one-shot the fight with Death 5. The fact that they think this is an acceptable way to build the class means they've all but stated that BLU, as it currently stands, would break endgame content over it's knee.

So obviously it's not going to be allowed to do those things without the entire class being reworked and actually balanced.

[BubblyBoar]

They spent most of the live letter saying how it wouldn't be balanced for current content, which is why it is restricted to older content (by the lvl 50 cap). It seems they are intent on not letting into capped content because, as they said in the live letter, casting lvl 5 death on a raid boss would be too OP and would ruin the fight. They did say they would increase the cap, but base don their explanation it is doubtful that cap will ever be the current cap. People saying that BLU will catch up eventually are likely just refusing to believe SE would be silly enough to make a mini-game out of a beloved job instead of a real job.

[Soupa]

Nope I support the decision to keep it how it is now.