Blue Mage's implementation sucks. But, you aren't worse off for having it.

[Fyce]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...ed_job_system/

Your point being?
Since Square Enix can make an interpretation in XIV of iconic jobs into something that barely ressemble some of their previous iteration in the franchise (like SMN or RDM, to give the most debated examples), they should do it everytime?

Possible doesn't mean desirable. And vice versa.

[Iscah]

The way they chose to implement it, with learning spells from monsters and Primals, is really innovative and unique.

But I don't think we needed 49 of them at launch with more on the way.

Because there's going to be a set of spells that everyone recommends you have and everything else is just filler or fluff.

I think the key difference here is that it's for the solo content, with the intent that you *will* need to switch out skills to deal with different enemies.

(Sure, the lists of "equip A, B and C to fight X" will be all up on the Internet within a week, but you'd still need to make use of the skills.)

If blue mage is viable for endgame content, then yes there will probably be a fixed "best" skill set for that situation (or, who knows, three recommended sets depending on your chosen role!) but that's not the only place it's getting used.

Come to think of it, the "only allowed in pre-made parties" could be a way around the game viewing you strictly as a DPS - you could arrange with the party that you're going as a tank, and only a pre-made full party would be allowed into a dungeon without a game-designated tank.

[Dualgunner]

Your point being?
Since Square Enix can make an interpretation in XIV of iconic jobs into something that barely ressemble some of their previous iteration in the franchise (like SMN or RDM, to give the most debated examples), they should do it everytime?

I just like how you take this extreme position but react like this when somebody shows you the endpoint of such a position.

[Fyce]

I just like how you take this extreme position but react like this when somebody shows you the endpoint of such a position.

My overall position on the whole BLU controversy is to say that Square Enix can make a BLU however the heck they want. I hardly find that "extreme".
I actually find the people who are saying that they are unsubbing because SE didn't butchered BLU to make it fit for them to be able to take it in Expert Roulette to be a good example at what's actually extreme.

Besides... Why do you think that "the endpoint of such a position" is relevant when both you and me very well know that it will never happen? Not only it doesn't make any point, but it's actually ridiculous to use that in a debate without looking silly.

If you just want to have fun trolling, then please be my guest... At least I know what I'm getting into now.

[Arkdra]

You do realize that effort put into this sort of sideshow content does still detract from effort put into content people actually want, right?

I want blu specifically as it was announced and do not want it some other tiresome way. If all the weirdo ff11 fans can somehow rope the dev team into dumping 4 eurekas on me then I am going to get my one weird solo job.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

This is not entirely true. While I will reserve judgment before outright condemning it, however if BLU turns out to be side content they barely update, which has been a common trend in the past, then this is basically taking away resources from other content. Lord of Verminion and Diadem are a perfect example of this. We wound up with nothing for the duration of 3.1 because they put all their efforts into side content which ultimately tanked. Now BLU will unlikely bomb to that exact, but it's disingenuous to claim it has no impact if people don't like it.

[BubblyBoar]

A week ago I had the dream of using Grand Delta to explode a pack of mobs in my ex-roulette. Now I don't and it's heartbreaking.

[frostmagemari]

There is that other thread with a guy who unsubbed. You could follow suit if this game is so devastating for your hopes. Just saying.

Otherwise the OP is right. Youre not being denied anything, other than your ideals of what jobs get to be what. Gonna tell you now, theres gonna be people who are upset with how Gunblade and Dancer are implemented. Chances are though people wont unsub over it, or raise that huge a stink that this whole BLU thing did.

You do realize people rarely unsub over a single issue, right? Getting a person to unsub is like pinpricks. You can handle one issue, two issues, three.. maybe five.. maybe you can handle even ten or twenty. Eventually though, you'll get tired of them and the issue of the day will simply be the issue that was one issue too far for a customer; and then you'll have people throwing the customer's displeasure aside because they're not able to see that this was just the final straw and not the whole haystack.

[Berethos]

Well, to be honest, I'd rather have SE cancel the release of BLU at 4.5 in order for them to release it as a real class later. Because now we know for sure we ll never get blu as a genuine class.

If it being a "genuine" class means it's restricted to a set rotation (which is exactly what would happen), I hope it never gets released as that.

It's about time the "classes only within the trinity, only meant for level cap content and naught else matters" mindset gets broken, at least a little bit.

[Berethos]

A week ago I had the dream of using Grand Delta to explode a pack of mobs in my ex-roulette. Now I don't and it's heartbreaking.

Would probably just tickle, or maybe sting a bit, like most AoE's we cast/use in the game.