Blue Mage might actually be a good thing.

[Duskane]

They wouldn't be a dead weight, but they wouldn't really do much.

i have no issue with unsyncing it can help people yes clear content for those who started late i also never said anything against unsync,its extremely rare people want to sync level 50 ex primal especially since jobs are incomplete till max level of each expansion (this might be only bright side of blue).

also you can solo garuda and Garuda ex easily with a lvl 70 no need for pet shenanigans of separating them just kill them ,chain mechanics do not appear when you solo Ifirit or Ramuh ex and you will automatically be target with the electric aoe to snap you out of the stun with ramuh,so a level 70 can solo lvl 50 ex primals but adding another player will be adding more mechanics like the chains and such.
really takes no effort



its just this entire premise of FF14 Blue mage is extremely flawed and probably not as overpowered as they say it is.

[kikix12]

also you can solo garuda and Garuda ex easily with a lvl 70 no need for pet shenanigans of separating them just kill them

You need to read more carefully instead of filling in the blanks randomly yourself. Separating them will save about a minute of time. It's virtually impossible to kill them when they are together, so if you solo or do not use pet, you'll just have to wait them out and eat the ultimate. Not a problem, yes, especially for a class that can just heal itself before Garuda will even become mortal again. But it eats time. With blue pulling away one of the mobs, they can be quickly and easily killed to save all that time.

Similarly with Ramuh. I specifically mentioned the orbs and the resulting increase in damage forcing me to heal more often as time goes on. That will be less necessary if there will be another person to collect the orbs as well. And by collecting the orbs they'll break the chain too...so yeah. Not an issue.

Probably a higher damage dealer than Red Mage, or at least red mage that is overmelded unlike me. And your point is?! You can "Skip Soar" in synced Zurvan too, but not every party can. That doesn't make those that cannot skip it a dead-weight. So those that cannot skip the adds for some reason will still very much take advantage of another person in the instance to make the run smoother/faster.

its just this entire premise of FF14 Blue mage is extremely flawed and probably not as overpowered as they say it is.

Feel free to make stuff up as you see fit. I prefer facts to fiction. This class may be a flop or a huge success. It may be overpowered or not (at which point...it's chance of being allowed into current content rises...so you complaining about that is hypocrisy).

[Duskane]

You need to read more carefully instead of filling in the blanks randomly yourself.

but you did this to me...
you implied i had a issue with unsyncing stuff in general and went off on a tangent when my problem is that blue would need to rely on unsyncing a bit of the lvl 50 content to easily learn spells
a job marketed as a solo job that needs to rely on pre-made teams.

[kikix12]

but you did this to me...

No, I didn't.

(...)and even if you have a RDM or Tank help you then duo ifrit ex as an example the blue mage is just gonna be alright just there as dead weight as basically someone else does the work for you(...)

You clearly are saying that there is a problem with unsynced running of it because the Blue Mage will be just a dead weight. If there is no problem, you wouldn't have used this argument against the job in the first place.

you implied i had a issue with unsyncing stuff in general and went off on a tangent when my problem is that blue would need to rely on unsyncing a bit of the lvl 50 content to easily learn spells

I never said about you have problem unsyncing anything else. Just where it is relevant for Blue Mage.
Only here you are saying that the problem is supposed to be that the Blue Mage himself may feel troubled by having to unsync run it to learn the skill. But you know what?! A blue mage is not a dead weight to himself. He's not a dead weight if he's in a content that is properly leveled to him. So yeah, this is not what you said before.

I'm going off entirely what you DID say. It's the exact opposite of making stuff up. I did not try to read between the lines and make up stuff. If you are troubled by it, write out your arguments clearly the first time around.

a job marketed as a solo job that needs to rely on pre-made teams.

You are again making assumptions. Except for the few high-level bosses, all other skills are likely to be available from overworld or stuff that lvl50 can solo unsynced anyway. As for the high level bosses, it may be soloable as well, depending on the skill choices available. Big Guard, White Wind, that stun, Bad Breath, all of these skills are not specified. Yes, I do not expect Blue Mage to be able to solo Shiva, Ramuh etc at lvl50. Certainly not the extreme versions. Titan is unsoloable in hard mode since I don't think it's possible to kill him before he uses that Stone Prison and in Extreme Mode it takes too long to burst and deals too much damage for a lvl50 to realistically survive it, even if overpowered. But for all we know, Blue Mage may have Angel Whisper with its traditional re-raise which could count to save a wipe. So even that would be no problem.

Do you notice the "for all we know" part there?! There is a lot of possibilities. This class does have potential to be able to solo ANYTHING in the game. Because Blue Mage may have access to skills that are just that broken...even aside the Lvl5 Death or Roulette that would be just unfun, but good for farming. We know he can stun a primal. We don't know whether that stun is spammable, whether it's long, whether opponent builds resistance to it, whether its costs exceeds the Blue Mages ability to regenerate mana etc. We don't know whether Bad Breath will work fully on all bosses...while it's a ridiculously broken skill if it will. That's a lot we don't know that may end up either way.