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    ._. If they made one or two new worlds on each Data Center and made them for transfer players only temporarily, along with adding new wards to housing, then MAYBE this would be half way okay. It'd still be the shuffle from h*ll to get all my retainers in order so I can carry over my furnishings... and I'd have to give up my alt's small house in favor of having my main still having her medium + access to all three of my alts. But I'd be at least halfway more willing to to just transfer at that point.

    3 million isn't an incentive for me. It's not worth about 3-4 weeks worth of shuffling between 4 characters and trying to trim down inventory space to accommodate, hopefully temporarily, 500+ housing items. Shoot, I don't think 5 million is worth it. Even if the amount was enough for a Large house... I don't know if that's remotely worth it, because you'll never actually get one. x.x

    Mist, Plot 6, this has been my home for YEARS and I had coveted that spot since the LAUNCH of housing. ._. I'm not likely to get that on any other server, especially with all the transfers. And I feel terrible for my FC, maxed subs and airships... large in Shirogane, but they have to leave, because of their raid groups... :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atlantasia View Post
    ._. If they made one or two new worlds on each Data Center and made them for transfer players only temporarily, along with adding new wards to housing, then MAYBE this would be half way okay. It'd still be the shuffle from h*ll to get all my retainers in order so I can carry over my furnishings... and I'd have to give up my alt's small house in favor of having my main still having her medium + access to all three of my alts. But I'd be at least halfway more willing to to just transfer at that point.

    3 million isn't an incentive for me. It's not worth about 3-4 weeks worth of shuffling between 4 characters and trying to trim down inventory space to accommodate, hopefully temporarily, 500+ housing items. Shoot, I don't think 5 million is worth it. Even if the amount was enough for a Large house... I don't know if that's remotely worth it, because you'll never actually get one. x.x

    Mist, Plot 6, this has been my home for YEARS and I had coveted that spot since the LAUNCH of housing. ._. I'm not likely to get that on any other server, especially with all the transfers. And I feel terrible for my FC, maxed subs and airships... large in Shirogane, but they have to leave, because of their raid groups... :/
    Your post made me think of something, is it even possible for SE to give enough gil as proper reimbursement? The answer I came up with is no, and here is why.

    As you said, it takes a lot of work and time putting all the valuable furnishings into retainers, tossing out items and so on. The reason this takes soo much time is because for whatever reason, development wants to make lots of different items for this game, with nowhere to put them. Now lets say if they gave something like 30-50 Mil, as you said large house figures for simply transferring. What would happen is an extreme housing shortage because now even if they just own a small before, will be going after all the large and meds on the proposed new wards/ servers. People that do not get deep into housing simply do not understand, like my girlfriend made something like 36? windows, just these windows has a 4M-7.5 M value (depending what time you gauge the market) that a house happens to have.

    So yeah 3 million is a joke to people that really do amazing things with housing and covers nothing. If they really want to control the markets while helping players, those items would be transferred digitally of some sorts, without cluttering our retainers. You simply can't give enough gil to cover all those items, otherwise it will cause problems for the markets, and players losing all those items are simply unhappy. They need to let us transfer the items easily.

    The housing system SE made just does not work. They where told this countless times, upgrade your servers, make instanced houses, something, but they continue want to cheap out this game to maximize profits, and keep running into problems like this because of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamada View Post
    Your post made me think of something, is it even possible for SE to give enough gil as proper reimbursement? The answer I came up with is no, and here is why.

    As you said, it takes a lot of work and time putting all the valuable furnishings into retainers, tossing out items and so on. The reason this takes soo much time is because for whatever reason, development wants to make lots of different items for this game, with nowhere to put them. Now lets say if they gave something like 30-50 Mil, as you said large house figures for simply transferring. What would happen is an extreme housing shortage because now even if they just own a small before, will be going after all the large and meds on the proposed new wards/ servers.

    The housing system SE made just does not work. They where told this countless times, upgrade your servers, make instanced houses, something, but they continue want to cheap out this game to maximize profits, and keep running into problems like this because of it.
    Pretty much. I started on Balmung due to my ex boyfriend at the launch of ARR having his legacy character there, I moved later to Coeurl to be with my friends from another game who wanted to raid and remembered I was an excellent healer in that game. It took me 2 months to prepare for that server move, and that was with only one character and no house at the time because I was using my private FC chest as a 3rd and 4th retainer, so I had to downsize and my friend helped me spend money on items I could get payout for on Coeurl with the move. I cannot imagine the scale needed for this. x.x It's overwhelming and a nightmare for me.

    Money just doesn't cut it. More wards + new servers, locked for transferring only people might help, as would some FC locked ones, for all the FCs transferring, but there's no getting back those submarines and air ships and the time it takes to make and unlock things with them.

    The only other solution is to do Cross Data Center Party Finder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atlantasia View Post
    More wards + new servers
    There are over 200 open plots on my server in Goblet alone. There are seemingly far more plots available, across servers, than there are people that want houses, and with the upcoming free server transfers, there's no reason why anyone who wants a house can't get one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beckett View Post
    There are over 200 open plots on my server in Goblet alone. There are seemingly far more plots available, across servers, than there are people that want houses, and with the upcoming free server transfers, there's no reason why anyone who wants a house can't get one.
    Is that the same in Mist? :/ Medium plots? The good ones, not just the ones no one wants unless they're desperate. What about large houses for FCs? And keep in mind, when people start transferring, housing will be filling up in Aether, across all the worlds.

    For Coeurl being a small world, there's rarely more than 1-2 open housing spots in Mist, and anything more than smalls is generally rare outside of Goblet, which tends to be the "undesirable" housing area. No offense, but free teleport to Ul'dah through the Gold Saucer, I don't care about Goblet for that reason alone. The last time they released wards, Shirogane lost all their Large plots in 2 minutes, I know, I was the last one to nab one for my FC. 5 seconds slower and we wouldn't have gotten that house!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atlantasia View Post
    Is that the same in Mist? :/ Medium plots?
    Not enough house and not enough good houses are entirely separate issues. Adding more wards and more servers creates very few new Mediums and Larges.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamada View Post
    Wonder how true that will be after the DC change and free transfers...........
    and 200 plots does not seem to be enough to cover thousands
    That's 200 plots in one district, of one decently populous server. I can't even imagine how many the actual low population servers have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beckett View Post
    Not enough house and not enough good houses are entirely separate issues. Adding more wards and more servers creates very few new Mediums and Larges.
    Perhaps the devs should recognize and change this then, especially since it's their decision which is so greatly inconveniencing people? Maybe if they worked on instanced housing in the last six years or overhauled apartments to where they aren't simply a glorified FC room, people wouldn't be as upset? The list goes on, but we keep coming back to SE does virtually nothing to fix things until it's long too late then expects the players to deal with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beckett View Post
    There are over 200 open plots on my server in Goblet alone. There are seemingly far more plots available, across servers, than there are people that want houses, and with the upcoming free server transfers, there's no reason why anyone who wants a house can't get one.
    Wonder how true that will be after the DC change and free transfers...........
    and 200 plots does not seem to be enough to cover thousands
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