Blue Mage might actually be a good thing.

[kikix12]

It's not up to the playerbase to know how, it's up to the developers.

It's up to the developers to implement something choosing from the options available. I have described the most common implementation that people ask for. Taming wild monsters to use them in battle.

And to say it's unrealistic is like saying it's unrealistic for them to balance tanks, or for them to add any jobs whatsover.

Things that are unrealistic are unrealistic. You apparently have no idea how design at all works if you equate adding one unique class to adding several unique class, let alone dozens.

And it is not unrealistic to balance tanks. It is straight impossible to perfectly balance tanks without making them literally the same thing with different names, maybe order of skills used for most efficiency. The game works on maths and maths have only ONE result to everything, regardless of the amount of paths to achieve it.
It is possible to balance tanks so long as you consider "viability" as the focal point however. Since viability allows for certain classes to be better or worse in something, they may have varied traits to them while being balanced.

But going through that effort - to play a solo job - is a joke.

Then don't?! I don't go through the effort to learn most of the jobs in the game. Should they be deleted because they are useless?! So I wouldn't have to level them and forget they exist just cause I'm the sort of person that does tend to level crap I'm never going to use anyway?!

There are plenty enough people that will level Blue Mage and that will enjoy it. It does not need to fit everyone, let alone do that straight out of the box.

If you want to show your opinions of Blue Mage?! Sure, go ahead. But stop attacking opinions of others. By calling it a joke, waste of resources, stupid and the like you ARE attacking opinions of others and going far further than you have the right to in an opinion. Those describe "facts", not "opinions". Opinions focus on the person giving them. "I don't like it", "I won't enjoy it", "I couldn't care less about it", "I'll see nothing from the resources put into it". These are opinions. Not what you and most other people here are showing.

[Shadowshinra]

Yes, it was from FFXI, but that also had...*goes to look* ... A lot of blue magic, some of which gave stats, or combined for autoabilities, and how you set it up mattered. Otherwise, you just had access to all blue magic you learned when you could cast it.

I assumed as much, I didn't play 11 as much as I should have at the time so I never got around to BLU, it's fan base is very vocal so I can understand the people thinking certain things about certain jobs. But the end of the day 14 isn't 11 no matter the similarities that lie underneath or how much people wish it were more similar.

[MomomiMomi]

The problem with all these arguments in defense of Blue Mage as they are implementing it is that they could have done both. They could have given it the ability to have a billion spells in solo content, but then restrict it to a specific set of spells for group content.

They chose the lazy option of simply giving us the easier one to implement.

[JBee]

And it is not unrealistic to balance tanks.

Agreed - which was the point I was making.

You apparently have no idea how design at all works...

But stop attacking opinions of others.

Right.

[Ilenya]

The problem with all these arguments in defense of Blue Mage as they are implementing it is that they could have done both. They could have given it the ability to have a billion spells in solo content, but then restrict it to a specific set of spells for group content.

They chose the lazy option of simply giving us the easier one to implement.

Then people would just be upset they couldn't use the spells they wanted. Let's be honest, BLU was Lose/Lose/Lose for SE. Never release it, people complain. Release like it is, people complain. Release it like all the other jobs, people complain. I don't blame SE for going "Screw it" and just doing it how they felt worked.

[kikix12]

The problem with all these arguments in defense of Blue Mage as they are implementing it is that they could have done both. They could have given it the ability to have a billion spells in solo content, but then restrict it to a specific set of spells for group content.

The problem with the people against Blue Mage is the fact that they completely dismiss the fact that this is an experiment that they are going out with, and that there is nothing suggesting that once it will go long enough they won't make it possible to play like any other job.

It is extremely difficult to balance and stay true to the lore and mechanics of the job at the same time. But it will become a lot easier if they take small steps at it while playtesting it on live servers with hundredths of thousands of testers available. They never dismissed it, players did on their own. Just like players dismissed new classes/jobs outside of expansions. Just like players dismissed...a class that learns abilities from monsters without quests or similar...

Then these people go and exaggerate everything into oblivion. Going by what some people say, one would think that implementing Blue Mage is gonna doom the whole game...

Agreed - which was the point I was making.

That point had nothing to do with what was said. Making extra classes is not the same as balancing classes that already exist.

Right.

Design is not an opinion. I can't speak French. Someone saying that I apparently don't know a thing about French would be 100% right. It's not up for discussion.

You may know something about designs, but your comment suggested that you do not. Not from the designers point of view anyway.

[Razard]

Then people would just be upset they couldn't use the spells they wanted. Let's be honest, BLU was Lose/Lose/Lose for SE. Never release it, people complain. Release like it is, people complain. Release it like all the other jobs, people complain. I don't blame SE for going "Screw it" and just doing it how they felt worked.

Quoted for truthery.

[whiskeybravo]

The problem with the people against Blue Mage is the fact that they completely dismiss the fact that this is an experiment that they are going out with, and that there is nothing suggesting that once it will go long enough they won't make it possible to play like any other job.

Sounds like your typical "Wait for the patch notes" response.

[Andevom]

Dragoon is now a job that can only be used in open world and FATEs and can no longer queue for roulettes or raids, because players are trying to dictate how the DRG should use their skills.

But that's fine, right, cause you've got all the other jobs at your disposal.

What makes Dragoon iconic isn't something that makes it difficult to fit into raids. Dragoons jump, fight with lances, and have dragon-themed armor. They're not known for having a bunch of abilities. Not the same thing.

But if Dragoon was a limited job, you can bet I'd still happily play the hell out of it.

[MomomiMomi]

Then people would just be upset they couldn't use the spells they wanted. Let's be honest, BLU was Lose/Lose/Lose for SE. Never release it, people complain. Release like it is, people complain. Release it like all the other jobs, people complain. I don't blame SE for going "Screw it" and just doing it how they felt worked.

They can't use it anyway if they can't play it. Better to have something than nothing.

The problem with the people against Blue Mage is the fact that they completely dismiss the fact that this is an experiment that they are going out with, and that there is nothing suggesting that once it will go long enough they won't make it possible to play like any other job.

There is nothing suggesting that they will, either. The safer bet is that they won't, because the fact it won't at release is a known factor.