5.0 and MSQ Skip: Free Skip Potion?

[ShanXiv]

It's not very hard to understand....
like classic games, pop music, movies & some good stuff in the golden era, they are so good & they don't fade over time.
but classic stuff is very hard to make, it requires time & talented directors & developers.
New players come & try this game, because the hype & the graphics are pretty,
after some time,they found that this game is just so so, then leave, maybe 1/20 of them will stay,
so there's a constant need for new players to fill the gap

And the MSQ/Job skip potion can't really solve the problem
It's only going to make things worse.

because players who are willing to pay more time on a game, they hate such short signed stuff

[ShanXiv]

But I do agree that quest quality >> quantity
FFXIV 1.2x quests are far better than 2.0 ,
I felt excited every time I got a new quest in 1.2x
now most quests are just meaningless, a waste of time, just like other contents (duty finder, gear treadmill)in this game

Many things in this game are wrong....
Yoshi-p mentioned their team are lacking MMO design experience, so this is foreseeable

[Pepsi_Plunge]

I don't thing newcomers should skip them. Yes, there are a lot of stupid sidequests I hated myself and the transition between "go save the world!" to "go be my private delivery guy!" back to "go save the world again!" is a bit of anticlimatic, but they get you around and show you all the places.

Also, skipping right to the end (or near the end) without learning the game, your class and the system will only get you killed and drag your whole group down in dungeons/raids. We've propably all seen enough "I've just bought a level 60 starter kit and went to certain doom"-guys in the duty finder already.

[Zojha]

Only on the FFXIV forums, have I seen people defending something like the current MSQ which is a mostly solo experience, as being conducive to an MMORPG.

At the same time, people rant about blue mage being a solo job.

One can only hope it's not the same people doing both. That would be hypocritical.

[DracotheDragon]

i highly doubt they will give away a skip potion, but i do remember talks about the 2.x quest bloat, and it is possible they may change the quest chains for that area come 5.0 to speed it up a little, to the missions that give no major 'plot'

[Voltyblast]

So maybe, I've missed it with all the news about 4.5 and 5.0 but has SE addressed what are they going to do about the MSQ regarding skip potions?

Because if new players, have to go through hundreds of quests just to get into 5.0 areas and content, I can foresee a lot of them just quitting way before they even finish ARR. ARR alone has 285 MSQ quests.

Some of these are soul-crushingly tedious and I say this as someone who enjoys the story.

So will SE give out free skip potions or something similar with 5.0 or will it be $kip potion on the Mog Station again?

B-b-b-b-b-b-but IT'S A FINAL FANTASY, IT HAS TO HAVE A STORY, IT'S SUPER DUPER MEGA IMPORTANT OR ELSE IT'S NOT A FINAL FANTASY - ah you get the gist of it.

In all honesty, I totally agree with you: my sister was one of those who quit the game knowing the amounts of quests she had to do and has never touched the game ever since. We are both huge lovers of stories in jrpgs but the filler was so much she just couldn't handle it - while I managed because I was way ahead of her.

This is basically HW all over again because of that issue and I remember many people I knew were bashed because of their "absurd" idea of skipping the main story and reach the expansion right away, so if anything be sure that nothing will change because...well final fantasy fans are that fixated over defending flaws.

On the other hand, I was having the same idea: give new players a free skip potion to reach 5.0 right away and then let them enjoy the past as they wish - or don't and save it for later. I think it would be a great idea and would definitely pump some fresh numbers into the game.

I mean the worst MMORPG of all time World of Warcraft does give a free boost if you preorder and it's not like you NEED it but hey, that game is the worst MMORPG of all time so if the worst MMORPG of all time can do it, why not the best MMORPG of all time can?

PS: yes that sentence is purposely over the top, I forgot that on the internet I have to explain every lame joke I make.

[Seraphor]

With the New Game+ option, story skips might actually be more viable. As you say, skip ahead then enjoy the past as you wish, something you couldn't do with a story skip before, if you skipped it, it was gone for good, you just lost 90% of the game you paid for.

Skipping straight to 5.0? No, that would be pointless.
At release, there won't be all that much to 5.0, you'd be left with about a months worth of content before you'd finished everything. Sounds like a rip off to me. Not to mention you'd miss out on HW, some of the best story content in the game, or any Final Fantasy in the past 10 years for that matter!

There should be a free 2.0 skip for all future copies though, given that we can now go back and replay it whenever we want.

[Iscah]

If they were going to implement any sort of "free skip" in contrast to the paid skips available so far, I would expect that it would be the ARR skip that becomes free, while Heavensward and a newly-introduced Stormblood skip still need to be bought. But I'd be pleasantly surprised if they even did that much.

[aesteval]

I don't think SE would ever give MSQ skip potions for free, they want you to go through and enjoy the story, but no doubt they will advertise them for purchase on the MogStation should players choose to go down that route.

New players can always skip on one character and go back on another or with New Game +. At some point it's going to be imperative that a skip potion comes with the complete package because there's just too much back log content for the default expectation to be that new players are going to start from the beginning and have to catch up with friends from there. At some point (some people will argue we're already there,) it's going to happen.

[Tenryuu-Kai]

B-b-b-b-b-b-but IT'S A FINAL FANTASY, IT HAS TO HAVE A STORY, IT'S SUPER DUPER MEGA IMPORTANT OR ELSE IT'S NOT A FINAL FANTASY - ah you get the gist of it.

In all honesty, I totally agree with you: my sister was one of those who quit the game knowing the amounts of quests she had to do and has never touched the game ever since. We are both huge lovers of stories in jrpgs but the filler was so much she just couldn't handle it - while I managed because I was way ahead of her.

This is basically HW all over again because of that issue and I remember many people I knew were bashed because of their "absurd" idea of skipping the main story and reach the expansion right away, so if anything be sure that nothing will change because...well final fantasy fans are that fixated over defending flaws.

On the other hand, I was having the same idea: give new players a free skip potion to reach 5.0 right away and then let them enjoy the past as they wish - or don't and save it for later. I think it would be a great idea and would definitely pump some fresh numbers into the game.

I mean the worst MMORPG of all time World of Warcraft does give a free boost if you preorder and it's not like you NEED it but hey, that game is the worst MMORPG of all time so if the worst MMORPG of all time can do it, why not the best MMORPG of all time can?

PS: yes that sentence is purposely over the top, I forgot that on the internet I have to explain every lame joke I make.

I said no free stuff for newbies in 5.0 but i never played a SE game before this one and life and strange... so im not a fan for sure.
calling WoW the worst MMORPG is just dumb, without WoW Most MMORPGS wouldnt exist or the player count would be very low, they also do plenty of stuff better than XIV and the other way around too, So it sounds like you are the fanboy here not us.

If people would get a free skip potion they will just drag other people down like Pepsi said above.
Your argument is pretty weak, saying only fans defend the fact that people should either pay for a boost or just do the quests like some of us had to, i know plenty of people who regreted boosting and quit the game becaus they had no idea what theire doing.
Also why are people who try to get free jump potions for newbies also never people who cleared a Ultimate or atleast Savage fight? you are biased seriously. You only think of benefits for Casual players, but you fail to realize that free boosts will hurt Savage & EX Content because people with 0 experience will join up either Duty finder groups or PF groups and drag us down. im not a elitist but start thinking about the entire community instead of just one part of it.

Dont get me wrong, Give people a ARR skip because the content there is just Boring, HW is great but i wouldnt mind if people get a boost there too, that way people would learn the game to some degree and wont be deadweight, but im against getting more than that.