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    So I'm trying to understand how is this is a bad thing in the long-run? Especially if the aim is to move towards a unified MB across the DC.

    I'm currently leveling my crafters and on Balmung, I think what's going to happen is that initially our prices will go up as visitors buy stuff. We might end up becoming the de facto shopping server of Crystal.

    Then if our prices keep going up, the prices on other servers will go down and then people will flock to whichever server is the cheapest. This cycle will keep repeating until the disparity between the MBs on the DC are reduced.

    As a crafter and gatherer, it means the days of DOH/DOLs selling stuff for high prices on smaller servers might be coming to end.

    However, judging by my experiences of selling stuff in a saturated buyers' market, DOH/DOLs will be able to sell stuff faster albeit for lower profits.

    What does concern me is gil-laundering and RMT activities. How does SE plan to tackle that when people can buy stuff on visited worlds?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwistedTea View Post
    So I'm trying to understand how is this is a bad thing in the long-run? Especially if the aim is to move towards a unified MB across the DC.
    So now every person on every server of Crystal who wants to sell anything first has to go to balmung, check the price of every single item, write it down and transfer back, all to match Balmungs price, repeat this every single time you want to update prices. Really not seeing anything wrong with that?

    All this is gonna do is encourage the use of illegal 3rd party programs to keep track of the marketboard because that's gonna be the only way to compete.

    If they wanted to unify the economies they should have started with unifying the marketboards. But of course nothing is ever simple in this game, every new feature has to be added in the most convoluted way.
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    Didn't they say you can't use the MB on other servers if you are visiting?
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    Quote Originally Posted by alimdia View Post
    So now every person on every server of Crystal who wants to sell anything first has to go to balmung, check the price of every single item, write it down and transfer back, all to match Balmungs price, repeat this every single time you want to update prices. Really not seeing anything wrong with that?
    I've addressed this:

    Then if our prices keep going up, the prices on other servers will go down and then people will flock to whichever server is the cheapest. This cycle will keep repeating until the disparity between the MBs on the DC are reduced.
    So if Balmung becomes expensive, due to visitors inflating the price, some other server will take its place as Crystal's de facto shopping server, until price disparity is reduced to the point, where it doesn't make sense to travel to another server for cheap items.

    All this is gonna do is encourage the use of illegal 3rd party programs to keep track of the marketboard because that's gonna be the only way to compete.
    Not sure about 3rd party illegal programs but experienced DOH/DOLs already use sites like ffxivmb to keep track of MB prices. On reddit, I've already seen someone set up a website to keep track of prices across servers.

    If they wanted to unify the economies they should have started with unifying the marketboards. But of course nothing is ever simple in this game, every new feature has to be added in the most convoluted way.
    Don't see how they could have done it overnight without wrecking the value of personal mats and gil wealth of players. By working towards reducing price disparity they are gradually paving the way for a unified MB across the DC.

    Didn't they say you can't use the MB on other servers if you are visiting?
    Apparently,you'll be able to buy stuff on visited worlds from their MB.
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    Last edited by TwistedTea; 11-19-2018 at 11:13 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    Didn't they say you can't use the MB on other servers if you are visiting?
    You can buy but you can't sell from what I have heard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwistedTea View Post
    So if Balmung becomes expensive, due to visitors inflating the price, some other server will take its place as Crystal's de facto shopping server, until price disparity is reduced to the point, where it doesn't make sense to travel to another server for cheap items.
    But how do you reduce prices to match Balmung? You have to enter and exit Balmung every time you want to adjust prices, hence my post.

    Quote Originally Posted by TwistedTea View Post
    Not sure about 3rd party illegal programs but experienced DOH/DOLs already use sites like ffxivmb to keep track of MB prices. On reddit, I've already seen someone set up a website to keep track of prices across servers.
    Those sites use 3rd party forbidden programs to record price data from the client and upload it to the website, how else do you think they are gonna get the numbers? SE refuses to release an official API.

    Quote Originally Posted by TwistedTea View Post
    Don't see how they could have done it overnight without wrecking the value of personal mats and gil wealth of players. By working towards reducing price disparity they are gradually paving the way for a unified MB across the DC.
    That's not the reason they gave in the stream.
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    But how do you reduce prices to match Balmung? You have to enter and exit Balmung every time you want to adjust prices, hence my post.
    Yes and when another server becomes cheaper,sellers on Balmung have to do the same. This cycle will keep happening until price disparity insignificant across the DC.

    Those sites use 3rd party forbidden programs to record price data from the client and upload it to the website, how else do you think they are gonna get the numbers? SE refuses to release an official API.
    Fair enough.

    That's not the reason they gave in the stream.
    What was the reason?
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    Quote Originally Posted by alimdia View Post
    So now every person on every server of Crystal who wants to sell anything first has to go to balmung, check the price of every single item, write it down and transfer back, all to match Balmungs price, repeat this every single time you want to update prices. Really not seeing anything wrong with that?
    That's not going to be as prevalent as you think. It requires too much effort. Will some players travel for market reasons? Sure. But it's not going to be that widespread and all most people will need to do is be concerned about current prices on their home market. These are the same markets that pay a premium for NPC sold items so that they don't have to travel within worth to acquire.
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    Some servers have gear that is way overpriced. That is going to change as people can now buy things on other servers at much lower prices. No more huge price disparities from one server to another.
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