5.0 and the Marketboard sales

[Zsolen]

They making a big deal but it's nothing really. Will be crazy at the start but will stabilize later. As a consumer it's good news for us as more competition among sellers mean they have less chances to rip us off.

Rip you off? I already don't make much off sales for end game gear, considering time invested. It's not easy competing with bots. So maybe don't judge someone, before knowing the situation.

[MaybeOliverB]

I love how people don't even understand the correlation between inflation/deflation and a server's population.

[Liam_Harper]

They making a big deal but it's nothing really. Will be crazy at the start but will stabilize later. As a consumer it's good news for us as more competition among sellers mean they have less chances to rip us off.

How do we rip you off? We put in time, effort, months of leveling our crafters to 70, gathering materials, gearing up, melding millions worth of materia, making craft food, tea, searching for rotations and so on, and give the casual player a chance to obtain a massive range of items and it's a rip off because we expect a small profit per item?

If you're talking low demand items being sold for far more than material cost, that's because these items can take weeks to sell and take up retainer space. Often you can buy the materials and request a crafter to help too, I do that all the time for free.

But if you feel profit for items is a rip off, by all means level your crafters, gatherers, get into treasure maps and get them yourself for "free". No one's stopping you.

[Dirwen]

But if you feel profit for items is a rip off, by all means level your crafters, gatherers, get into treasure maps and get them yourself for "free". No one's stopping you.

I'm no crafter/gatherer and probably never will be. Maybe someday I might level one crafter/gatherer out of boredom who knows. Doubt most people level those do it legit to begin with. I came from FF11 where most people used 3rd party programs.

More competition is healthy for the MB sorry if that pisses you off and better for consumers such as myself. As for the issue of bots that is on SE and not me.

[Zsolen]

I'm no crafter/gatherer and probably never will be. Maybe someday I might level one crafter/gatherer out of boredom who knows. Doubt most people level those do it legit to begin with. I came from FF11 where most people used 3rd party programs.

More competition is healthy for the MB sorry if that pisses you off and better for consumers such as myself. As for the issue of bots that is on SE and not me.

You said I ripped people off. I told you that wasn't the case. We don't make much on Coeurl.

It's actually possible we end up making more, since we are a crafting server and buyers from multiple servers may benefit us in crafter to customer ratio. However, we don't know for sure. Once you start to merge economies, you can cause a lot of unintended changes. This includes potentially giving bots more power over real crafters/ gatherers, potentially destroying that aspect of the game and encouraging RMT. The weaker real tradecraft people are, the stronger RMT will get.

Edit: I've also crafted a lot of things for free.

[KageTokage]

Bots really do dominate the economy on most servers, whether they're doing it for RMT purposes or simply for personal gain.

This change is likely going to force everyone to adopt their unreasonably low prices that are only profitable if they're spending little to no money on mats (Which is generally facilitated by them having gathering bots fueling their crafts). A single aethersand presently costs more then a craft's worth of infusions on my server as a good example of how badly they've screwed things up.

[Dirwen]

Edit: I've also crafted a lot of things for free.

I get that and no matter what SE does people will get mad regardless. At least with this more people benefit than get screwed. Mainly consumers benefit but hey life isn't fair. Also every server had their own economy and on some smaller servers there is a horrible supply/demand issue that takes place.

At least this will help alleviate the problem. I have alts on multiple servers so seen stuff either not in stock or priced 2-4 times other servers. Thus my view on being ripped off.

[KageTokage]

The obvious solution to this whole issue would be for SE to just stop being absolutely terrible at controlling bots, but that's probably never going to change, lamentably.

A lot of people on my server simply gave up on trying to craft for profit entirely because of how oppressive the bots were getting, while others actually changed servers to escape them, but now there won't be any escape.

[Hakuro89]

Honestly, I think they should restrict access to marketboards while you're visiting other worlds. No buying, no selling.
It would prevent world markets from spilling into each other, as well as deny bots the opportunity to capitalize on it.

[Zsolen]

I get that and no matter what SE does people will get mad regardless. At least with this more people benefit than get screwed. Mainly consumers benefit but hey life isn't fair. Also every server had their own economy and on some smaller servers there is a horrible supply/demand issue that takes place.

At least this will help alleviate the problem. I have alts on multiple servers so seen stuff either not in stock or priced 2-4 times other servers. Thus my view on being ripped off.

But you put that on a specific individual. Reputation is important.