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  1. #111
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    Arkdra's Avatar
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    Arkadya Dravena
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    Excalibur
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by XelphatolTylenolCepacolAlcohol View Post
    So unpopular, in fact, that some of the hottest topics on both the official forums and the ffxiv reddit are overwhelmingly people expressing their disapproval and/or disappointment about something they've been looking forward to for years. Yup. No interest at all. Nothing to see here.
    Just lol that you think this is overwhelming. This is nothing compared to the eureka hate.
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  2. #112
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    SonKevin's Avatar
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    Fax Machine
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    Pandaemonium
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    Conjurer Lv 4
    Quote Originally Posted by XelphatolTylenolCepacolAlcohol View Post
    So unpopular, in fact, that some of the hottest topics on both the official forums and the ffxiv reddit are overwhelmingly people expressing their disapproval and/or disappointment about something they've been looking forward to for years. Yup. No interest at all. Nothing to see here.
    Yes, I remember all the talk about BLU being the most requested class for HW or ARR. Oh wait, it only started getting requested after all the other classes got added and it's still nowhere as requested as DNC.
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  3. #113
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    LittleStar's Avatar
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    Little Popsicle
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    Excalibur
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    I don't post often but this entire thing just does not sit well with me. I want to be a Blue Mage. I want to go out and learn my spells. That part is awesome and I'm thankful they are letting us do that. But what's the point? Getting 50 won't take long. Learning all the spells will realistically take a week or two tops, and then what? I can't be a Blue Mage anymore because there's no content. I'm locked out of content. Why punish people for playing a Blue Mage?

    If I don't have all my spells I think people should absolutely kick me out of their group. Put some sort of lockout or restriction so you can't join until you learn your spells. Anything!

    My spells are too OP? Nerf them when fighting boss mobs, or better yet, balance them when in duties. We wanted this job. A JOB. Not a part-time job, a real job we can main. A job we can actually do things with. The game has 5 years worth of content, and you are locking us out of 4/5 of it.
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  4. #114
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    SonKevin's Avatar
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    Fax Machine
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    Pandaemonium
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    Conjurer Lv 4
    Quote Originally Posted by Nariel View Post
    First of all, while being blue magic they are monster move, with a lot of variation.

    They can use the elemental weakness as a mecanic, you use a fire element spell to grow up a debuff on the monster and consume it with a wind spell for additonal damage per exemple, force to rotate between different duality whith cooldown on the "stack consumer".

    They can use the physical or magic monster skill changing wich spell to choose and what rotation to use for any monster who use mainly magic or physical or even use the template of weakness they actualy choose for the masks carnival to force the mage to use a definite set of spell that exploit their weakness to be efficient with a base toolkit of jack of all trade skill.
    So you're actually suggesting that they make it so that damage is calculated different from every other class in all content? The change of damage calculation works in the Carnival because it's a separate content system. You're suggesting they bring that to the entire game AND apply it only to BLU. So every other class is going to be damaging the mob in one way while BLU handles it a different way? I can't even imagine that SE can do that with this mess of a game.
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  5. #115
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    Nariel Cendrenuit
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    Ragnarok
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    Yeah because piercing, slashing, blunt & magic damage aren't a thing in FFXIV. Its funny because they could even adjust their blue spell according to his teamate to benefit from their debuff depending on what type of damage the spell do.

    Even elemental damage was a thing at start and Eureka could be usefull for a change with his elemental system as a base.
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    Last edited by Nariel; 11-19-2018 at 03:24 AM.

  6. #116
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    SonKevin's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nariel View Post
    Yeah because piercing, slashing, blunt & magic damage aren't a thing in FFXIV. Its funny because they could even adjust their blue spell according to his teamate to benefit from their debuff depending on what type of damage the spell do.

    Even elemental damage was a thing at start.
    You mean all those things that people have been whining to get rid of for years because "it doesn't make my class viable", lol.
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  7. #117
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    InkstainedGwyn's Avatar
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    Souji Hanamura
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Arkdra View Post
    Just lol that you think this is overwhelming. This is nothing compared to the eureka hate.
    To be fair, this is a lot more interesting than the Eureka hate. It's garnering responses much more quickly, and there are a ton of different viewpoints coming out of the woodwork. Eureka was maybe 90% hate, 7% meh, and 3% love. This is more like... 45% hate, 30% love, 8% 'just balance it already', 6% 'wait and see', 6% 'they'll cave no matter what they said', and 5% popcorn.
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  8. #118
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    Powercow's Avatar
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    Powercow Cowcow
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    Excalibur
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    Pugilist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SonKevin View Post
    You mean all those things that people have been whining to get rid of for years because "it doesn't make my class viable", lol.
    Yes, those things. What, do you want BLU to not be unique? Just some carbon-copy job that has no new mechanics? Shame on you!
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    If someone wins an argument, they have learned nothing.

    FOR DOCKHAND!

  9. #119
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    XelphatolTylenolCepacolAlcohol's Avatar
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    Esthalna Sageleaf
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    Midgardsormr
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Arkdra View Post
    Just lol that you think this is overwhelming. This is nothing compared to the eureka hate.
    I wouldn't know. I really don't post here and I just skipped over Eureka discussions entirely, as I was never interested.

    Quote Originally Posted by SonKevin View Post
    Yes, I remember all the talk about BLU being the most requested class for HW or ARR. Oh wait, it only started getting requested after all the other classes got added and it's still nowhere as requested as DNC.
    Funnily enough, I also remember the bolded. RDM, SAM, BLU, and DNC were easily the four most requested classes leading into Heavensward and Stormblood.
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    Last edited by XelphatolTylenolCepacolAlcohol; 11-19-2018 at 03:30 AM.

  10. #120
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    Quote Originally Posted by Powercow View Post
    Yes, those things. What, do you want BLU to not be unique? Just some carbon-copy job that has no new mechanics? Shame on you!
    I don't know if this is a serious comment or not, but you can't just apply elemental damage to all monsters for one class. They removed it from the game when 2.0 came out. If you say that it's back in and then try to explain that it only work for BLU, I'm sure people will hop right on BLM and go "FINALLY, ICE MAGE IS THE META AGAINST THIS ICE MONSTER".
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