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    Quote Originally Posted by Nariel View Post
    Yeah because piercing, slashing, blunt & magic damage aren't a thing in FFXIV. Its funny because they could even adjust their blue spell according to his teamate to benefit from their debuff depending on what type of damage the spell do.

    Even elemental damage was a thing at start.
    You mean all those things that people have been whining to get rid of for years because "it doesn't make my class viable", lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SonKevin View Post
    You mean all those things that people have been whining to get rid of for years because "it doesn't make my class viable", lol.
    Yes, those things. What, do you want BLU to not be unique? Just some carbon-copy job that has no new mechanics? Shame on you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Powercow View Post
    Yes, those things. What, do you want BLU to not be unique? Just some carbon-copy job that has no new mechanics? Shame on you!
    I don't know if this is a serious comment or not, but you can't just apply elemental damage to all monsters for one class. They removed it from the game when 2.0 came out. If you say that it's back in and then try to explain that it only work for BLU, I'm sure people will hop right on BLM and go "FINALLY, ICE MAGE IS THE META AGAINST THIS ICE MONSTER".
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    Quote Originally Posted by SonKevin View Post
    I don't know if this is a serious comment or not, but you can't just apply elemental damage to all monsters for one class. They removed it from the game when 2.0 came out. If you say that it's back in and then try to explain that it only work for BLU, I'm sure people will hop right on BLM and go "FINALLY, ICE MAGE IS THE META AGAINST THIS ICE MONSTER".
    Yeah, why would they implement an entire mechanic for just one class? That's ridiculous! I mean, pets?! What kind of mad, mad world do we live in where Arcanist gets a pet but Rogue doesn't!? Why, a Rogue with a pet wouldn't even fit the concept of a Rogue! Know what, ABORT, SHUT IT ALL DOWN! ALL OF IT, SHUT ALL OF IT DOWN!

    I think you simply lack creativity. You have an extremely narrow view of what is possible and want to shove BLU into that tiny little box when it could be so much more. Simply excluding it from content doesn't make BLU somehow more interesting. Stop trying to limit what Blue Mage could be by saying it needs to be relegated to the sidelines because thinking about to how to make it interesting is hard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Powercow View Post
    Yeah, why would they implement an entire mechanic for just one class? That's ridiculous! I mean, pets?! What kind of mad, mad world do we live in where Arcanist gets a pet but Rogue doesn't!? Why, a Rogue with a pet wouldn't even fit the concept of a Rogue! Know what, ABORT, SHUT IT ALL DOWN! ALL OF IT, SHUT ALL OF IT DOWN!

    I think you simply lack creativity. You have an extremely narrow view of what is possible and want to shove BLU into that tiny little box when it could be so much more. Simply excluding it from content doesn't make BLU somehow more interesting. Stop trying to limit what Blue Mage could be by saying it needs to be relegated to the sidelines because thinking about to how to make it interesting is hard.
    Pets are an additional mob, not an entirely separate damage calculation. I don't think you understand this conversation if you're using that as an example.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SonKevin View Post
    Pets are an additional mob, not an entirely separate damage calculation. I don't think you understand this conversation if you're using that as an example.
    Pets have a plethora of unique damage calculations. Simply changing an enemy's resistance is something that requires tweaking a few flags, pets require creating UI elements and a basic form of AI (and ask any summoner or scholar, their pet is dumb as a rock.)

    The point I'm getting at is your blatant hypocrisy by saying X or Y can't work because of Z reason, when we have a multitude of examples on how SE made it work for other jobs without completely ruining the job. Every excuse I've seen for why BLU can't work has been incredibly weak and easily shown to be not true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Powercow View Post
    Pets have a plethora of unique damage calculations. Simply changing an enemy's resistance is something that requires tweaking a few flags, pets require creating UI elements and a basic form of AI (and ask any summoner or scholar, their pet is dumb as a rock.)

    The point I'm getting at is your blatant hypocrisy by saying X or Y can't work because of Z reason, when we have a multitude of examples on how SE made it work for other jobs without completely ruining the job. Every excuse I've seen for why BLU can't work has been incredibly weak and easily shown to be not true.
    Pets do not have a plethora of unique damage calculations. You're asking SE to go through the game and give every single monster an elemental classifications for one class and only one class. It's not about making a few flags. It's about creating a new system and then applying it to every single mob, every single boss, and anything else since the game came out. Pets don't require you to change the entire battle system. They don't require brand new and unique damage calculations. They didn't require a special form of AI, just any old AI that was already used for NPCs. Pets are nothing like what you're asking. You're asking for them to bring back a 1.0 system that have basically spent the last 5 years writing out of the game for a single class.
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