They announced how worlds would be shuffled.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Its necessary.

Probably why they have less issues on the JP worlds, because the traffic is spread out more. People were literally complaining about this.

Necessary because they're too incompetent not to put an instance ten quests into the MSQ or make servers that can handle a decent load? Regardless, this is entirely pointless since people are already saying they're moving right back. Balmung's shout chat is littered with people saying they're going to transfer. And virtually every raid group, casual to hardcore, is either leaving or discussing it. So all this will accomplish is Gilgamesh being the new Balmung in terms of population while Jevona, Cactuar and Sarg are all the secondary raid options. Crystal, meanwhile, will have a near dead PF.

What are they going to do, lock all of Aether and force people onto Crystal? That's a genius way to kill your game.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Necessary because they're too incompetent not to put an instance ten quests into the MSQ or make servers that can handle a decent load? Regardless, this is entirely pointless since people are already saying they're moving right back. Balmung's shout chat is littered with people saying they're going to transfer. And virtually every raid group, casual to hardcore, is either leaving or discussing it. So all this will accomplish is Gilgamesh being the new Balmung in terms of population while Jevona, Cactuar and Sarg are all the secondary raid options. Crystal, meanwhile, will have a near dead PF.

What are they going to do, lock all of Aether and force people onto Crystal? That's a genius way to kill your game.

And thats right back the the original problem.

People seeing certain servers as bad.

How about fostering new communities on these datacenters instead of all transferring off. That makes it a self fulfilling prophecy.

[HyoMinPark]

And thats right back the the original problem.

People seeing certain servers as bad.

How about fostering new communities on these datacenters instead of all transferring off. That makes it a self fulfilling prophecy.

It’s a bit difficult to foster a raiding community with the 10% left on Crystal when 90% of it is on Aether.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

It’s a bit difficult to foster a raiding community with the 10% left on Crystal when 90% of it is on Aether.

Seems like a player caused issue to me.

[BillyKaplan]

Seems like a player caused issue to me.

Players: [foster relationships for years]
Players: [have paid money before to move servers to be where they want to be]
SE: [tears the community apart]
SE: why can't the players solve this problem?

[HyoMinPark]

Seems like a player caused issue to me.

Yes. We clearly caused this issue after fostering communities for years on certain servers for certain activities (Balmung/Mateus for RP, Gilgamesh/Sargatanas/Leviathan for raiding) only to have them torn apart and unevenly distributed all because the developers can’t have the foresight to NOT place an MSQ instance 10 quests into the new expansion.

But, by all means, try to foster a new raiding community on Crystal when 90% of it is on Aether, and then come back and tell us all how easy it was for you. We’ll wait.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Yes. We clearly caused this issue after fostering communities for years on certain servers for certain activities (Balmung/Mateus for RP, Gilgamesh/Sargatanas/Leviathan for raiding) only to have them torn apart and unevenly distributed all because the developers can’t have the foresight to NOT place an MSQ instance 10 quests into the new expansion.

But, by all means, try to foster a new raiding community on Crystal when 90% of it is on Aether, and then come back and tell us all how easy it was for you. We’ll wait.

Balmung had a pretty big raiding population back during coil, before cross world party finder was a thing. In fact, it wasn't until Gordias that raiding on balmung got bad, and that was only because people jumped ship to greg thinking they could get carries on the "raiding" server.

Theres no reason why new statics cant form, people can raid anywhere.

I know you are a big shot ultimate raider, but its not hard to raid with people who aren't big shots. Just takes like minded people, who can be found anywhere, and some effort. Lots of outrage and "were gonna designate servers for this" fixes nothing.

[HyoMinPark]

Balmung had a pretty big raiding population back during coil, before cross world party finder was a thing. In fact, it wasn't until Gordias that raiding on balmung got bad, and that was only because people jumped ship to greg thinking they could get carries on the "raiding" server.

And from what I have heard, a lot of those raiders are considering leaving and going back to Aether where the majority of the raid community is.

I know you are a big shot ultimate raider, but its not hard to raid with people who aren't big shots. Just takes like minded people, who can be found anywhere, and some effort. Lots of outrage and "were gonna designate servers for this" fixes nothing.

Raiding with individuals who do not share your same goals and level of skill are a recipe for disaster. You wouldn’t throw softcore raiders into a group of hardcore raiders, just like you wouldn’t throw a hardcore raider into a group of softcore. The goals are not the same, and eventually all the contention and frustration over it will bubble over and result in members leaving and/or statics breaking.

But, thank you, for proving you don’t actually have an argument. You wouldn’t have to devolve into cheap-shot ad hominem if you did.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

I know you are a big shot ultimate raider, but its not hard to raid with people who aren't big shots. Just takes like minded people, who can be found anywhere, and some effort. Lots of outrage and "were gonna designate servers for this" fixes nothing.

And if those like-minded people are all on Aether? You may only care about doing stuff casually, but other people don't. Which is why Balmung is currently exploding with people leaving. As more and more people funnel back to Aether, it will becoming increasingly difficult to find these "like-minded people" even for raiders who aren't "big shot ultimate raiders".

I wonder if you'll feel the same should Crystal's PF scene be complete dead.

[SaitoHikari]

Balmung had a pretty big raiding population back during coil, before cross world party finder was a thing. In fact, it wasn't until Gordias that raiding on balmung got bad, and that was only because people jumped ship to greg thinking they could get carries on the "raiding" server.

Theres no reason why new statics cant form, people can raid anywhere.

I know you are a big shot ultimate raider, but its not hard to raid with people who aren't big shots. Just takes like minded people, who can be found anywhere, and some effort. Lots of outrage and "were gonna designate servers for this" fixes nothing.

I am some 'big shot ultimate-tier raider', and while I'm sort of fine with the way this is going (since I saw this coming from a mile away when the devs already locked Balmung multiple times and continuously upped transfer incentives and designated preferred servers), I'm still upset over one thing.

The one thing being that they would even do this without going the extra mile and making sure that players/FCs that decide to transfer are able to keep their housing intact. Of course, this is quite difficult from a programming standpoint, but it is also the number one roadblock preventing people from transferring in the first place. As it currently is, the only people transferring are the people with little to nothing to leave behind. With Balmung being grouped with all of the low end population servers, it's not really going to work out upon further thought. The people in Balmung with little to lose will just move back to an Aether server to reconnect with friends there instead of going to any other Crystal server, and the raiders of all the other Crystal servers (that are probably already well established enough to own a house and everything due to the low population in the first place) that are to be moved to Crystal are basically completely out of luck.