Quote Originally Posted by whiskeybravo View Post
What are we arguing about again?
Basically, everyone is just taking their frustarations over their mains on BRD again...

And using DPS numbers which mean nothing as brd is wanted for just its utility...

And, because most jobs do not bring enough utility or inspire different party compositions in raids and stuff besides red mage....

Quote Originally Posted by HyperiusUltima View Post
Quite a discussion I'm seeing here. What I hope for is that the dev team considers what is being said here since this is constructive debate, and could lead to them thinking up something either great, or...something else. ...I still think the consensus is that the DPS Role has a lot of stigma when it comes to Raid Buffs.

If they want to change it, they need to fix A LOT of things to make every job desirable instead of "Take BRD because it buffs everything".
Totes, and they just need to remove sidewinder from PvE or give other jobs actual utility abilities that would make them attractive to group content and stop making jobs a total mess with a lack of meaning and actions that feel empty and without weight to them. And, actually address their problems like giving BLM the ability to teleport between N S E W points, an ability to shift those nodes to go NE NW SE SW, a 7 second invincibility ogcd that also prevents the player from attacking by shift into the void, and then decrease the number of wasted space similarly to how stone was handled for whm.

My thought on MCH are on the first and second pages


Quote Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki View Post
I hope nothing in the game going forward is buffed to the ridiculous level BRD is now no matter any disadvantages they've seen in the past. At the end of the day BRD is taking up far too much space and the only answers to that fact are ignoring it or bringing it in line with casters and MCH. Since BRDs seem very opposed to losing utility it seems like the best option becomes dps nerfs.
It's not really BRD it's actually because the other jobs need to have an impact to the party or just abilities to fix some of thier short comings. Like having to be a stationary turret in an MMO with bosses like Talurd.