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  1. #31
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    mosaicex's Avatar
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    Noyoyo Noyo
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Again with this 'balance' horsecrap.
    Here are some facts for you, open wide
    FACT 1 : Tanks and healers are way more balanced than they were in Heavensward.
    Are they perfectly balanced? Of course not.
    FACT 2 : DPS jobs are less balanced than tanks and healers.
    But we never see anyone complained about how they shouldn't add more dps job because of it, do we?

    Take that however you wanted, but please stop with the excuse about how they shouldn't add new tank or healer because muh balance issues, which I can almost guarantee doesn't affect you in the slightest.
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    Last edited by mosaicex; 11-13-2018 at 04:11 PM.

  2. #32
    Player Soge01's Avatar
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    Waira Amarilla
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    Faerie
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    We need more tanks and healers; I love to see them be something different than heavy armor types for tanks though. Or at least a heavy armor mage of some sort...Sage Job class...?

    And healer using some sort of healing technique that doesn't involve magic, like a Chemist sniper or some sort of Blue Mage healer hybrid...?
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  3. #33
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    Sharl Llyntine
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    Jenova
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by mosaicex View Post
    FACT 1 : Tanks and healers are way more balanced than they were in Heavensward.
    Are they perfectly balanced? Of course not.
    Except they're not? The issue with tanks hasn't changed, PLD juust swapped places with DRK.

    As for healers, WHM still remains a shadow of the other two healers, AST and SCH being able to do everything it can do and more, with the excuse of it all being WHM has Cure III, which I should add isn't needed in any content in the game. Everything can be healed by all healers, so Cure III is rather pointless. I don't even need to get into the Lily system being a complete failure.
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  4. #34
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    Tani Shirai
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    Cactuar
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    Monk Lv 100
    Only if we're getting true hybrids or something otherwise very unique.

    Alternatively, I'd be fine with no additions if any only if it meant getting a repolish of the existing jobs to make them feel less like templates-with-flavor-adjustments.
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  5. #35
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    Tani Shirai
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    Quote Originally Posted by mosaicex View Post
    Again with this 'balance' horsecrap.
    Here are some facts for you, open wide
    FACT 1 : Tanks and healers are way more balanced than they were in Heavensward.
    Are they perfectly balanced? Of course not.
    FACT 2 : DPS jobs are less balanced than tanks and healers.
    But we never see anyone complained about how they shouldn't add more dps job because of it, do we?

    Take that however you wanted, but please stop with the excuse about how they shouldn't add new tank or healer because muh balance issues, which I can almost guarantee doesn't affect you in the slightest.
    This.

    If there's a reason to delay for tanks and healers it's that the current ones have yet to notably differentiate themselves -- seeming instead to vary from a shared base toolkit in a flavored manner rather than reaching the capacities needed for their role in their own ways -- not because of poor balance. And unless/until we've heard that they're considering making those roles less stagnantly homogeneous, there's no point in waiting.
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  6. #36
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    Rhaya Jakkya
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    Odin
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    White Mage Lv 100
    I would appreciate having a new healer and a new tank, but I just don't want them to just make a copy of an existing class.
    Looking at you pre-SB dark knight.
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    Last edited by CaptainLagbeard; 11-13-2018 at 06:16 PM.

  7. #37
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    Rysir Arcalane
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    Wouldnt mind either way, its a no win situation.

    We either:

    1. Get a new tank and healer and they are vastly superior to current best tank/healer giving us a new first and second place for each

    2. Get a new tank and healer and they are terrible and only past tanks and healers shift around in popularity

    3. Get a new tank and healer and they are average but are overshadowed by past tanks and healers due to attack/ability/spell changes brought by 5.0 and maybe shifting the first and second place tanks/healers around

    4. Get no new tank or healer and one of each is still third wheeling in some form
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  8. #38
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    Joe Schmoe
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    Hyperion
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Would you be ok with no new tank or healer in 5.0?
    Yes, in fact I wish they didn't have any new tanks/healers in 5.0. World of Warcraft has this issue too, too many damn tanks/healers in that game. I mean, what next? Gopherchuck tanks/healers?
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  9. #39
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    347SPECTRE's Avatar
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    Khirrika Moshroca
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    Midgardsormr
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Joe_Schmoe View Post
    Yes, in fact I wish they didn't have any new tanks/healers in 5.0. World of Warcraft has this issue too, too many damn tanks/healers in that game. I mean, what next? Gopherchuck tanks/healers?
    That's WoW, in XIV you only have 3 choices for both tank and healer.
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  10. #40
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    Pollux Luminous
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    Mateus
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    Culinarian Lv 90
    Absolutely not. I was really annoyed when they announced double dps for stormblood. Give me at least a healer or tank and I'll be happy.
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