Bunny Fates and their RNG...

[Mizunoko]

I could kind of understand why they would put the mount in the chests, to give it a sense of difficulty to obtain.

For some reason you and many others think LUCK or RNG means Difficulty though. Being lucky has nothing to do with difficulty. Most people have no issue with something taking time to accomplish (being grindy) the problem lies with SE using rng for this and all rng does is worry people thinking they might never get lucky RNG does not guarantee IF OR WHEN that you get what you want, which is the main problem here. We pay sub fees to have fun playing a game....not to gamble for luck on things. This gamble mentality needs to leave gaming. There is no reason another more guaruntee-able method cannot be used while also keeping the content active or time consuming. There are always other methods and options and SE apparently does not want to take them. Don't get me wrong i love ffxiv but this one track mind with things like these needs to stop direction needs to change instead of just going down hill all the time. That's the problem. Being lucky with RNG has nothing to do with rewarding someone for their efforts or being difficult.It is not rocket science to be able to understand why most of the base is unhappy with SE's latest direction with these things. As someone who has worked long and hard on eureka and hasn't had a single bit of luck yet i know how it feels when someone who hasn't worked much for something got lucky, and to the people who keep saying "if you don't like eureka then don't do it". Well we would follow that advice IF SE DIDN'T GATE OUR RELICS (content we like) behind eureka (content that we do not like) The problem is that SE is not giving us OPTIONS. Only one path and a bad path most would argue. Eureka had potential.........but i feel like SE just doesn't want to listen to good feedback anymore.

[Kurando]

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I think you misunderstood a little what I mean as I'm not stating the difficulty is in the RNG, but it's actually in participating in the Conflict and going on the journey to find the chest. It's risky for solo players and maybe for small parties as well, I mean that risk of having to go in an area populated by high level mobs only to be left with an exp penalty because no matter how many times you shouted, you were so out of range no one cared to come rez you. Of course there are some nice players that go out of their way, but what I'm saying is in Anemos it was easier to die at an NM even if you got rewarded with a lockbox because there was a higher chance of someone raising you, hence less risk/difficulty and a possible mount in the box.

I remember for a while the Conflicts in Pagos were usually ignored by most players and so it was difficult if you tried to do it alone or with one/two other people. If you can't complete the Conflict without help, I'd say that also has a sense of difficulty as well. Finding a chest is often the easy thing, the effort to get there isn't always the same...

[Darkplanet]

Yea the rng needs to stop. Specifically rng that is gatekeeping relics, stats, or gear. It’s so absurd, and just really upsetting to a lot of people, and sours an otherwise improved pyros.

[Duskane]

Putting the mount in bunny chests was an incredibly stupid idea. Bunny fates should only reward logograms...and in much larger quantities than they do now.

The mount is in heat boxes too

[ElazulHP]

The mount is in heat boxes too

Is this confirmed? I've not seen anyone say they gotten one this way, but that would be much easier than the bunny fate farming. You can do Signha at night and get about 8 to 10 heat boxes every 30 chain.

[Marxam]

All I can say is that I no longer feel happy when I complete a relic step. I feel exhausted and frustrated. This honestly feels like SE took a page from EA Battlefront 2. Everything from the high grinds to excessive RNG gates for the most desirable items. They even implemented gambling like mechanics via the stats re-roll in Pyros. I've even held off my o10s clear just to get the armor but I'm stuck since I can't get offensive logorams. Just poor design all around and for what? Just to keep people subbed longer? that's disappointing. FFXIV is better than this but it only aims for mediocrity or falls short on its execution or both. Very sad indeed but I guess SE is getting their money so no need to change anything.

[hynaku]

Think you have about 5% chance getting a bunny. I did 8 of them other night and didn't get one bunny from them. Rng way to high to them. Don't get how part of your party gets a bunny and others in it don't. When your there from start and same level as them. Seen one's show up at last stage to it and get a bunny when others that's been there since start doesn't get one. How is that fair.

[xbahax92]

Hmm.

- Wanted items are locked behind multiple rng waves.
- Diadem had a token exchange for minions, mounts, materials etc.
- If no RNG, then you would get the items at some point.
= Same fate as Diadem, Eureka would die after weeks. Now you know why its behind multiple RNG.
Think about it.

[InkstainedGwyn]

Hmm.

- Wanted items are locked behind multiple rng waves.
- Diadem had a token exchange for minions, mounts, materials etc.
- If no RNG, then you would get the items at some point.
= Same fate as Diadem, Eureka would die after weeks. Now you know why its behind multiple RNG.
Think about it.

If you have to force people to continue the content or else it dies, then it sucks and deserves to die. Besides, it's backfiring - just because there are full instances doesn't mean "a lot" are doing it, if they were there wouldn't be so many folks unsubscribing and they wouldn't feel the need to keep "nerfing" the content to make it more palatable. A handful of 144-people instances out of the tens of thousands on a datacentre is pitiful. In my FC, where we had a dozen+ people doing relics in HW, we have 1 person in Pyros. Two still in Pagos. That's it.

The content is still going to die, and instead of being something ppl don't mind going back for if a new player comes along and needs help (we routinely take newbies through Diadem to get their Pegasus mount, we do ex horse/bird farms, we do fate crystal farms for HW weapons, etc) it's going to be something everybody shuns.

It's a game and forcing it to be an unfun job instead is a good way to kill said game.

[Nariel]

- If no RNG, then you would get the items at some point.
= Same fate as Diadem, Eureka would die after weeks.

Its a win-win situation.

They get love, we get loot.