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  1. #11
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    Just give up bro. SE doesn't care about MCH or the players who want to use it. And hey, if enough people finally stop using MCH then maybe they'll just delete it from the game. It's a Win-Win, you get to play a better job and no longer have to worry about changes that won't come.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whiskeybravo View Post
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    Why would they do that? You have a whole storyline dedicated to MCH, as well as a very nice steampunk job fantasy. The only thing is just gameplay, which honestly can be adjusted. Others need to realize that SE isn’t going to throw a big rework like MCH’s Job Mechanics in a rush; they want to make sure that it can operate in a proper environment in both ends of the spectrum.

    Also, before you bring the WAR Argument, realize that they had to adjust how WAR used Inner Release: First raid tier, you had to rely on RNG; 2nd Raid Tier, they simplified it to reduce the gap between players but it’s not brain dead “ungabunga” and get rid of the RNG that was WARR’s Burst Damage.
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    Can’t edit on phone, so here is the rest.

    Along with the first raid tier, WAR LITERALLY had to make the stars align to use Inner Release for big burst in Savage.
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  4. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyperiusUltima View Post
    Why would they do that?
    Because obviously it's too much trouble for them to even acknowledge the job has problems. If you don't want to deal with a problem then the easiest thing to do is delete it from existence.

    Then again, it's not like Yoshi P has ever said the community is bad at MCH before.

    There is a big difference between the numbers provided by the players and those provided by the development team, which has a high experience of the game and a perfect mastery of the machinist job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whiskeybravo View Post
    Because obviously it's too much trouble for them to even acknowledge the job has problems. If you don't want to deal with a problem then the easiest thing to do is delete it from existence.

    Then again, it's not like Yoshi P has ever said the community is bad at MCH before.

    There is a big difference between the numbers provided by the players and those provided by the development team, which has a high experience of the game and a perfect mastery of the machinist job.
    I mean, not liking how it plays doesn't mean you're good at it.
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    There's only like 5 people playing MCH now, why would anyone be so sad if it was deleted?
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    Quote Originally Posted by whiskeybravo View Post
    There's only like 5 people playing MCH now, why would anyone be so sad if it was deleted?
    Because I don't feel like learning bard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    Because I don't feel like learning bard.
    I don't either. Now that I have most of my bis stuff for WAR outside 405 weapon I'm probably just going to work on SAM.

    #RIPMCH2018
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    Is Hypercharge a Raid Buff? It says it increases target's damage taken by 5% on the tool tip for both the turret's but I've never heard anyone say MCH had a Raid Buff. Does it only apply to damage from the MCH?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NobleWinter View Post
    Is Hypercharge a Raid Buff? It says it increases target's damage taken by 5% on the tool tip for both the turret's but I've never heard anyone say MCH had a Raid Buff. Does it only apply to damage from the MCH?
    Yes, it is like ninja trick attack, but 5% and different duration/cd.
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