Housing Woes

[MaybeOliverB]

The rule is one house and one FC house per account per server. You are grandfathered. Your 27 houses could have 25 other owners on them if you actually believed your statements.

I said I wouldn't have the timer if you are PAYING your sub.

I knew you would say that.

Glad to see you don't even know what rules are being applied despite talking all that talk.

You are clueless. Here are the current requirements for a free company




What you are all overlooking is the temporary changes to purchasing land. Some are still ongoing, some are not. How do I know? I wasn't able to purchase more FC houses on the same account when the new wards were only available to FCs or personal houses reolcation.

Unlike you, I know how many of my houses were grandfathered in during 4.2 and it isn't anywhere near the twenties. I have 24 characters with their own FC house and 3 of these characters happen to own a personal house.

Oh and who cares if you're paying your sub, you are inherently preventing players from purchasing a house you obviously don't need if you want to get rid of the 45 days timer.

Do not pass Go. Do not collect $200

[Numenor1379]

Cut the lawyer crap. You know damn well you aren't supposed to have that many houses. You know that if you truely cared about letting more people own houses you would not own 27. You know that owning 27 houses is preventing between 13 and 25 other players on your server, from owning one of them. This while also being on one of the servers with the worst housing shortage, which if your nameplate is correct is Gilgamesh.

You know this. We all know this.

You. Don't. Care.

End of story.

Regardless my own personal feelings on the demo timer, I have not advocated for it's removal and I am not doing so now. Stating an opinion is not the same as advocating for it.

[MaybeOliverB]

Cut the lawyer crap. You know damn well you aren't supposed to have that many houses. You know that if you truely cared about letting more people own houses you would not own 27. You know that owning 27 houses is preventing between 13 and 25 other players on your server, from owning one of them. This while also being on one of the servers with the worst housing shortage, which if your nameplate is correct is Gilgamesh.

You know this. We all know this.

You. Don't. Care.

End of story.

Regardless my own personal feelings on the demo timer, I have not advocated for it's removal and I am not doing so now. Stating an opinion is not the same as advocating for it.

You don't even want to admit your understanding of the rules was flawed from the very beginning. How mature of you, again. I care enough about the housing situation to give FC houses away for free and compensate the players who couldn't get a house against me. But obviously, you don't know that, you don't even know the housing rules.

You can turn your statement regarding the timer any way you want, you are in no position to tell me what is right and what is wrong when you would enjoy to keep your house for no reason as long as you stay subbed. Clearly you want to help homeless players out!!!

[Caitlinzulu]

Just checked, and those "temporary" measurements limiting you to one fc house per account are still in effect. So dont claim that at this point you are anything close to having aquired them 'legaly' Oliver
If you aquired them after these measurements where in effect you just exploited a loophole.

[MaybeOliverB]

Just checked, and those "temporary" measurements limiting you to one fc house per account are still in effect. So dont claim that at this point you are anything close to having aquired them 'legaly' Oliver
If you aquired them after these measurements where in effect you just exploited a loophole.

There's literally no loophole involved in acquiring 8 FC houses on the same server at the moment. No need to transfer FC leadership to a service account with no FC house tied to it. You just get a rank 6 FC, 4 people (yourself) and you buy a plot. The error message that was present during the two weeks moratorium after the release of patch 4.2 to inform you that you were not illegible to purchase more FC houses isn't there anymore. Still can't purchase more than 1 personal house per account at the moment though, you still get the error message and I hope it stays that way.

Most people already think I've been bypassing the rules to acquire this ward and literally the only thing I've been doing is tell them that I am playing by the rules. I have 0 reasons to lie about what rules are being enforced. If you think you know better, why don't you go to a dead server with 5 characters, level up two FCs and purchase two houses.

[Besame]

Note to self: Avoid Gilgamesh server.

[Caitlinzulu]

have 0 reasons to lie about what rules are being enforced. .

I can see a few reasons you could be lieing about this:. not saying you are
You could be lieing to make yourself sound more important, to escape prosecution by SE for breaking\circumventing the rules.

You claim that those temp measures are no longer in place. yet the website clearly mentions they still are. If there is no error message anymore its a bug and not a removal of that measure, and exploitation of a bug is still against terms.

And if there where houses free i would test it. On the other hand why would i need a 6th house? Dont find the time to fully decorate what i have now, with only 3 decorated.
And for the people objecting to me having 5, only 1 was grandfathered in the others are perfectly within term

[Caitlinzulu]

Note to self: Avoid Gilgamesh server.

Thats easy. isnt it closed for new characters most of the time?

[MaybeOliverB]

I can see a few reasons you could be lieing about this:. not saying you are
You could be lieing to make yourself sound more important, to escape prosecution by SE for breaking\circumventing the rules.

You claim that those temp measures are no longer in place. yet the website clearly mentions they still are. If there is no error message anymore its a bug and not a removal of that measure, and exploitation of a bug is still against terms.

And if there where houses free i would test it. On the other hand why would i need a 6th house? Dont find the time to fully decorate what i have now, with only 3 decorated.
And for the people objecting to me having 5, only 1 was grandfathered in the others are perfectly within term

If I was doing anything shady regarding the houses, I wouldn't even be typing here in the first place. Just because a purchasing guide, that's not even in the game, listing temporary measures hasn't been updated doesn't mean I'm infringing anything.

As I said, the restriction disappeared when the moratorium expired, which obviously makes sense. SE gave existing homeowners a head start of two weeks so they could relocate, if they desired, along with allowing houseless FCs that were illegible under the temporary restrictions to finally get a house in populated servers. If you actively bypassed those temporary restrictions on FC house purchases by using multiple service accounts to obtain houses during the moratorium then sure, SE might tell you that you were exploiting and you may/may not get punished because you were trying to capitalize before it was open season.

Secondly, there's no workaround or "loophole" as you like to call it unlike using ungarmax outside of designated instances in an effort to clear other instances. If you meet the old requirements to purchase an FC house, there's nothing stopping you. Someone that quit during heavensward and just came back, having no knowledge of what happened inbetween wouldn't even know about the temporary restrictions.

Don't get me wrong, I appreciate being confronted on the subject when it's being done properly. I didn't want to body that Famfrit guy above, but he was asking for it tbh . You have every right to be doubtful of my motives/intentions. I certainly prefer that over being depicted automatically as a bad person because I do things differently than others. It serves no purpose in a debate.

Thats easy. isnt it closed for new characters most of the time?

Server's been open for a year now.

[Numenor1379]

Pfft, you didn't even come close kid. So when are you going to let 13-25 other unfortunate players have a house by giving up your extras?

Oh wait... you aren't. Until you do you have ZERO right to talk about additional housing restrictions.