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    Quote Originally Posted by MaybeOliverB View Post
    How is it hypocritical? I've used my houses for years. I see people that don't and players without houses have to wait 45 days to get a shot at them. Just because I put in way more effort into housing than 99.9% of other players doesn't mean I'm an hypocrite, get off your high horse.
    You are a hypocrite for complaining of the unfairness of the housing system while owning more than two houses on one server. Give up 22 of your houses, then you can talk about being fair.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Numenor1379 View Post
    You are a hypocrite for complaining of the unfairness of the housing system while owning more than two houses on one server. Give up 22 of your houses, then you can talk about being fair.
    The issue is though, the houses were, I'm assuming, acquired fairly (before the rule change, correct me if I am wrong).

    It is up to SE to balance things out, not the players, that by SE's own rules, did nothing wrong at the time. SE shouldn't make housing a finite resource.

    This is literally an issue of "don't hate the player, hate the game(devs)."

    It's like you're yelling at someone that they are being unfair for eating several cupcakes at an all-you-can eat sweets buffet, where the baker intentionally didn't make enough sweets based on their average customer population.
    Is the housing system unfair? Yes.
    Is it the fault of people that own more than one house? No. So long as the houses were acquired within the rules of the game, the only person you can rightly point blame to is SE. Once people learn this, and start putting the squeeze on them, and less on their fellow players, this housing issue might actually be solved. In the mean time, keep infighting, and staying distracted with that, so SE can sit on their hands about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AriesMouse View Post
    It is up to SE to balance things out, not the players, that by SE's own rules, did nothing wrong at the time. SE shouldn't make housing a finite resource.

    This is literally an issue of "don't hate the player, hate the game(devs)."
    It maybe developers fault for their errors, but you are clearly saying that it is okay for one to be jerk to others knowing that others are feeling struggled for something they cant obtain.

    Developers can control the management of the houses, but developers cant control players being a jerk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Numenor1379 View Post
    You are a hypocrite for complaining of the unfairness of the housing system while owning more than two houses on one server. Give up 22 of your houses, then you can talk about being fair.
    So because I put way more effort into something than you, I am not allowed to comment on it? Nice logic. Also why 22? I'd still have more than 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Aldotsk View Post
    It maybe developers fault for their errors, but you are clearly saying that it is okay for one to be jerk to others knowing that others are feeling struggled for something they cant obtain.

    Developers can control the management of the houses, but developers cant control players being a jerk.
    My suggestions would only advantage players that don't have access to housing, go read my posts again. By the way, you've yet to show evidence where I've led someone on regarding offloading this ward to someone else. You've dug your hole way too deep to get out.
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    Last edited by MaybeOliverB; 11-04-2018 at 12:46 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AriesMouse View Post
    The issue is though, the houses were, I'm assuming, acquired fairly (before the rule change, correct me if I am wrong).

    It is up to SE to balance things out, not the players, that by SE's own rules, did nothing wrong at the time. SE shouldn't make housing a finite resource.

    This is literally an issue of "don't hate the player, hate the game(devs)."

    It's like you're yelling at someone that they are being unfair for eating several cupcakes at an all-you-can eat sweets buffet, where the baker intentionally didn't make enough sweets based on their average customer population.
    Is the housing system unfair? Yes.
    Is it the fault of people that own more than one house? No. So long as the houses were acquired within the rules of the game, the only person you can rightly point blame to is SE. Once people learn this, and start putting the squeeze on them, and less on their fellow players, this housing issue might actually be solved. In the mean time, keep infighting, and staying distracted with that, so SE can sit on their hands about it.
    There was a reason I said "give up". Sure the houses were aquired fairly. But him then complaining about fairness is idiotic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaybeOliverB View Post
    So because I put way more effort into something than you, I am not allowed to comment on it? Nice logic. Also why 22? I'd still have more than 2



    My suggestions would only advantage players that don't have access to housing, go read my posts again. By the way, you've yet to show me evidence of me selling the houses to a roleplayer, I'm still waiting.
    22 because I did a quick count of your signature. Regardless, if you were really concerned about being fair you would only own two. The dumb 7d idea would not fix anything and only cause problems. 45d is fine for the auto-demo timer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Numenor1379 View Post
    22 because I did a quick count of your signature. Regardless, if you were really concerned about being fair you would only own two. The dumb 7d idea would not fix anything and only cause problems. 45d is fine for the auto-demo timer.
    Oh so you prefer having hordes of players camping the handful of available plots on populated servers. How fair of you It is clear that you're the one here that has no sympathy for the homeless FCs/players. Next.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaybeOliverB View Post
    Oh so you prefer having hordes of players camping the handful of available plots on populated servers. How fair of you It is clear that you're the one here that has no sympathy for the homeless FCs/players. Next.
    LOL, I own one small house. You are the person with dozens. Give up all but the two you are allowed currently under the rules, THEN you can talk about caring for the homeless players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Numenor1379 View Post
    LOL, I own one small house. You are the person with dozens. Give up all but the two you are allowed currently under the rules, THEN you can talk about caring for the homeless players.
    Quantity doesn't mean a thing, the 27 houses I own are a drop in the sea. Besides, I am following the rules. It's 1 personal house per server and up to 8 FC houses per server. I have 3 service accounts that have houses tied to them. In each case, 1 personal and 8 FC houses. Case in point.

    You painted yourself in the corner the moment you mentioned you would rather not have the auto-demo timer. In your own words, pretty poor attempt to redirect the argument away from you
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaybeOliverB View Post
    Quantity doesn't mean a thing, the 27 houses I own are a drop in the sea. Besides, I am following the rules. It's 1 personal house per server and up to 8 FC houses per server. I have 3 service accounts that have houses tied to them. In each case, 1 personal and 8 FC houses. Case in point.

    You painted yourself in the corner the moment you mentioned you would rather not have the auto-demo timer. In your own words, pretty poor attempt to redirect the argument away from you
    The rule is one house and one FC house per account per server. You are grandfathered. Your 27 houses could have 25 other owners on them if you actually believed your statements.

    I said I wouldn't have the timer if you are PAYING your sub.
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