The whale mount is up on Mogstation

[Chevronone]

Why is this only a two seater? Lazy and half-baked...the theme of Stormblood thus far with the dev team seems to be - reskin, reuse, repurpose.

[Vahlnir]

Why is this only a two seater? Lazy and half-baked...the theme of Stormblood thus far with the dev team seems to be - reskin, reuse, repurpose.

If they allowed more than 2 people to ride it the servers would explode. Or something. It would also no doubt be at least $40-50, if not more and would probably require a monthly sub by itself.

[Skivvy]

If people want to waste their money that's their business. I hate the cash shop so I will never use it. And yes I'm annoyed to see yet another potential in-game incentive/reward aim for people with no idea what digital good are really worth. Very on the nose at least this time.

That said, when are we going to get more achievement/longevity rewards? I have tons and tons of points sitting around and nothing to spend them on since the claw mount was released (which hardly made a dent). Another mount- especially a two-seater- would be great to have.

The thing is, it's not wasting their money to the people who are buying it. Also, buying a $30 mount does not make someone a whale. I was sitting in Rhalgar's reach for awhile earlier, and it seemed that someone made the "whale for whales" comment at least once every five minutes. All I can think is:



But anyway, as I've mentioned above, I'm really not a fan of the cash shop in this game. I'm also not a fan of many things that XIV has to offer, and I've been vocal about that as well. It's taken me quite a long time, but I've come to the realization that this game, and the cash shop, are pretty set in their ways. They're not going to suddenly make a drastic change to the cash shop or the content they deliver just because I'm unhappy about it. So I get to choose if I still find this game (and by extension the cash shop) enjoyable enough to continue spending money on.

When the cash shop was just becoming a thing, I was incredibly vocal about how I thought it was setting a very bad precedent. And I continued to voice that concern for a very long time. However, at this point, I have accepted the fact that SE and XIV are not going to be my ideal game, and they will continue down the path that they're on. I sub now and then when I feel like it, and I buy an item when I feel like it. Perhaps you will count this as a win for SE, and maybe it is. But sadly it's the way games are these days. Cash shops, DLC, etc. It's everywhere. Oh i'll still complain when I feel the need, but I'm not going to beat myself up over buying an item if I feel like it. I also hate killing any sort of animal or insect, but I eat meat all the time. Life is full of weird hypocritical moments.

So yeah, at this point, I'm personally all fine and dandy if people want to insult SE over their cash-grab ways, but I'm not a fan of insulting players for buying things if it makes them happy.


Cheers on going off on a weird tangent. lawl.

[Aster_E]

Ok, I'm curious - Why should people 'show restraint' when it comes to buying a new mount in a game? It's a bloody fluff item, and the cost is inconsequential for most people.

The same two reasons restraint is good for a lot of items, both in-game and in real life. It tells the merchants and person(s) developing the item that, in some possibility, the pricetag is too high for what is being offered, even if people could afford it (imagine some major brand or company charging $50-60 on a hammer worth 20-30 tops. It reins in those prices a little. Second, and far more importantly, to prevent budget crisis or buyer's remorse. Either emergencies happen that require your money, or something better comes along that you want but suddenly don't have quite enough spare cash lying around; or maybe you do have enough but you kick yourself because you find yourself not getting anywhere near as much enjoyment out of a thing as what you hoped for. Absolutely this case does not apply to everyone, but budgets are a thing, and so is buyer's remorse. Give a new thing time, and ask yourself first if you really want it, as well make sure you have no problem spending that money. That's not an order but advice.

Also...comparing buying an in-game item to feeding one's addiction to cigarettes or alcohol? That's a bit of a stretch. Cigarettes and alcohol have proven negative health effects and can be highly addictive. Buying mounts and costumes generally doesn't threaten one's health. :P

When you look at it that way, yes, you're right. It would be a stretch to compare optional gaming fluff to potentially dangerous substance. However, that wasn't the angle I was going for. I was looking more at companies selling what they will because they can, and people buying into it regardless of how good or bad it is. In the case of optional gaming fluff, it's not dangerous to your health, but a lack of restraint can lead to falling short on cash down the line should you need it for an emergency, or for something you actually do want more than the fluff, because of budgeting (again only potentially). One time doesn't hurt. Then again, when does SE stop at one time with their fluff?

So really, I'm not saying "don't ever" when I bring up restraint. I'm saying "have care, and wait a bit."

I didn't miss the point and I'm not taking it as a direct attack either like you think I am. Everything I've said is technically correct and no matter how you try and spin the idea, it still and factually is, literally none of your business in what others do nor does it harm you personally or impact you in any way whether someone buys the whale mount or does not. Literally, it does not affect you in any way and the only reason it does is because you're the one taking the act of buying it personally.

If a person really wants something and they have the means to buy it on the first day, it does not mean there's a lack of restraint. If that were the case then you'd have to argue that anyone who puts in pre-orders for collector editions have "restraint" problems or those who spend money on 2-day shipping because they couldn't wait the additional extra days for free shipping.

Again, this is a silly thing to disapprove the community of since it's literally no one's business what someone else does with their own money and placing the sole fault and ire into the people who want the whale is incorrect and wrong.

Yeah, you're definitely missing the point if you're saying "this is a silly thing to disapprove the community," or think I'm butting into YOUR business making YOUR decision of what to buy. You're being overly defensive when I'm already saying do what you will. My disapproval is with the shop itself, not with you. It would take a lack of business for things to change, but I am not trying to impose upon you that you shouldn't buy. I'm not telling you to stop or otherwise butting into your own choices. On the other hand, you are proving precisely what I said at the end of a previous message, where even bringing up the idea would be the same or worse off compared to just talking to a wall. I brought up my points, said that I'm taking my own action without expecting it of anyone else, and you're sitting there going nuts over it, arguing against me on it as though I was demanding change, when I in no way told you that you have to follow my points or ideas.

So, I'll tell you what. If you don't want other people inside your business or what you do with yourself, then I am going to make one suggestion to you - just one. Don't go after people for sharing an opinion that you don't like. All you're doing is saying that the opinion somehow affects you. If you don't care for my opinion, then pretend that I haven't said a single thing. Pretend that I'm not even here. Then you won't have to keep responding to me with this asinine argument we're having. Because, and I will say this one last time to you: I am not out to change your mind, your habits, or your decisions when it comes to buying from the Magstation, and my own decision not to give SE more of my money has nothing to do with you.

[MomomiMomi]

Other MMO's launched with a subscription fee initially but then dropped it in favour of being F2P - but typically made it appealing to subscribe to an optional fee in exchange for advantageous in-game bonuses. I believe ESO does that? I haven't played that since launch, admittedly.

They're adding more to it soon, but until now, the overall consensus is that the major appealing feature of ESO's optional subscription was a "crafting bag" that holds an infinite amount of crafting materials; a much better deal than FF14's retainers. Not only is it infinite, but if you drop your subscription, you can still take items out (and you can craft from it without having to take them out, too!), a feature that FF14 is clearly lacking.

It's also not necessary. There are only about 150 relevant crafting items in the game. A maxed out inventory holds 200 items, the bank is 240, and you can get another 360 storage for housing. Also, 8 characters for free.

You can also store furniture in any of your 30-40+ houses that they don't take away from you.

[RareItems]

Lot's of whales already bought the whale mount xD.

[Sigma-Astra]

Yeah, you're definitely missing the point if you're saying "this is a silly thing to disapprove the community," or think I'm butting into YOUR business making YOUR decision of what to buy. You're being overly defensive when I'm already saying do what you will. My disapproval is with the shop itself, not with you. It would take a lack of business for things to change, but I am not trying to impose upon you that you shouldn't buy. I'm not telling you to stop or otherwise butting into your own choices. On the other hand, you are proving precisely what I said at the end of a previous message, where even bringing up the idea would be the same or worse off compared to just talking to a wall. I brought up my points, said that I'm taking my own action without expecting it of anyone else, and you're sitting there going nuts over it, arguing against me on it as though I was demanding change, when I in no way told you that you have to follow my points or ideas.

So, I'll tell you what. If you don't want other people inside your business or what you do with yourself, then I am going to make one suggestion to you - just one. Don't go after people for sharing an opinion that you don't like. All you're doing is saying that the opinion somehow affects you. If you don't care for my opinion, then pretend that I haven't said a single thing. Pretend that I'm not even here. Then you won't have to keep responding to me with this asinine argument we're having. Because, and I will say this one last time to you: I am not out to change your mind, your habits, or your decisions when it comes to buying from the Magstation, and my own decision not to give SE more of my money has nothing to do with you.

I never said that you were butting into my business, I never even talked about buying the whale myself. I was speaking in the general context of people buying them. I think you're the one taking everything personal and being hyper defensive here, while also assuming that I'm talking about myself.

If anyone is missing the point, it's you right now. You keep making something general in speaking a personal affair, strawmanning things I never even clarified in the first place that I had done myself in order to make a point. Why? Point me in the direction where I said that you were butting into MY business or that I bought the whale.

Please, if you can show me where I explicitly said that then maybe you'd have a point. Otherwise, this is a lot of hot air and overthinking into things I never even specified in the first place when I was speaking generally.

You seem personally bothered that I told you to stay out of other people's business. Not MY business, but others.

Don't go after people for sharing an opinion that you don't like. All you're doing is saying that the opinion somehow affects you. If you don't care for my opinion, then pretend that I haven't said a single thing. Pretend that I'm not even here. Then you won't have to keep responding to me with this asinine argument we're having.

Maybe start taking your own advice if you're not going to read what people write either regarding their own opinions and instead making up your own assumptions of what they were writing for the benefit of your own point.

You literally did not read or at least understand that I was speaking generally in every single one of my posts towards you and that it had nothing to do with myself personally, but your stance against what a bunch of nameless others do with their money.

[Berteaux_Braumegain]

They should play this when you mount it.

I was expecting the Lunar Whale music from IV.

[Dirwen]

The whale mount is pretty big as I prefer compact mounts but I might consider buying once it goes on sale. I don't see much use for a two-seat mount outside of Eureka so I'm not in a rush to get one.

[MomomiMomi]

I didn't miss the point and I'm not taking it as a direct attack either like you think I am. Everything I've said is technically correct and no matter how you try and spin the idea, it still and factually is, literally none of your business in what others do nor does it harm you personally or impact you in any way whether someone buys the whale mount or does not. Literally, it does not affect you in any way and the only reason it does is because you're the one taking the act of buying it personally.

This is incorrect. As consumers, this is a business practice that has succeeded because people have fallen for it, and has shaped business models worldwide for the worse. It affects us all.