PGL during 1.19

[Meleena]

That pug should do more damage or at least equal to the lancer.
I have parsed many ifrit fights myself, PUG always comes second or First DD in my party.

Because this was just a shits and giggles attempt I completely overlooked putting Keen Flurry on my bar. I was sear dodging yes but I could have easily added another 4-5 dps just by having extra Victimize II's going off throughout the fight.

EDIT:
Sorry I Just read this part.
Yeah ok that explains a lot.

EDIT 2:
Is everyone in this list using Ifrit weapons?

[Penguin]

That pug should do more damage or at least equal to the lancer.
I have parsed many ifrit fights muself, PUG always comes second or First DD in my party.



EDIT:
Sorry I Just read this part.
Yeah ok that explains a lot.

So you have hit 30+ dps as Pugilist? i would be interested in seeing those parses and ability breakdowns.

[Meleena]

Or your pugs are really really bad...
I dont see a big difference in numbers on carraways parser between classes, and Keen flurry makes a huge difference in Pug's damage output.
Dont tell me that you think that archer or Marauder can score higher vs a single enemy.

[Penguin]

Or your pugs are really really bad...
I dont see a big difference in numbers on carraways parser between classes, and Keen flurry makes a huge difference in Pug's damage output.
Dont tell me that you think that archer or Marauder can score higher vs a single enemy.

I don't personally know how high dps a Pugilist can do but i wouldn't say they were that much higher than MRD if higher at all, ARC i personally thought was very weak until i tested it tonight and after testing i wouldn't be surprised if ARC could keep up with MRD with the correct rotation.

The point is if you are doing 9-10k damage to ifrit per person you are either running with 3 damage dealers who are all doing 30+ dps which would be impressive and is why i said id love to see a parse of your breakdowns, or you are running with 4-5 damage dealers and your fights are lasting 10+ minutes, meaning the reason for the increased damage from each person is because of the amount of health Ifrit regenerates during the fight.

Our 5-6 minute kills generally put our damage dealers at around 6-8k damage per person when running with 5 damage dealers since the faster you kill the less health ifrit regenerates during the fight, i could post more older parses if you require proof of my claims but we rarely if ever see people with 9-10k damage total done to Ifrit unless we did badly.

Also Twenty Two (the person who played Pugilist on that kill) it was his first time ever attempting to play Pugilist on Ifrit which is mainly why he did the lowest.

[tachikoma]

Oh and really impressive peng the last run I saw an arc on ifrit was around 6dps...

[NoctisUmbra]

That pug should do more damage or at least equal to the lancer.
I have parsed many ifrit fights myself, PUG always comes second or First DD in my party.



EDIT:
Sorry I Just read this part.
Yeah ok that explains a lot.

EDIT 2:
Is everyone in this list using Ifrit weapons?

If you're DPS as a PGL is surpassing that of a LNC in your party, that just means the LNC isn't pulling his weight. I don't care how good you are on PGL - you can have a perfect run - a LNC of comparable skill will do higher DPS.

The point is 1.19's PGL or ARC are not nearly as bad as players made them out to be. They are both viable for Ifrit parties. They will not, however, surpass the DPS of a MRD or LNC. Player skill is a key factor here. I've seen LNCs do as low as 3k damage on runs that I topped at 10k.

Also pay mind to the DPS values on parses of Ifrit, not damage done, when comparing to parses of other fights. With Ifrit's regen, the longer the fight the higher the damage. What matters is how much damage you're doing per second.