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    Tried just now to login but failed multiple times!! What is going on?
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    Why do people say “no offense” right before they’re about to offend you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gtavaddict View Post
    Tried just now to login but failed multiple times!! What is going on?
    What's going on is SE doesn't appreciate us as customers, so we should take our money elsewhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macleod View Post
    What's going on is SE doesn't appreciate us as customers, so we should take our money elsewhere.
    Real answer is a DDoS happened again and isn't SE's fault because DDoS attacks are tough to defend against.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    Real answer is a DDoS happened again and isn't SE's fault because DDoS attacks are tough to defend against.
    Nah, if they really cared they'd be taking action against their crappy data center for not protecting themselves better. I've played plenty of other MMOs that had to deal with DDoS attacks, and guess what, none of them lasted for WEEKS. Things were usually fixed up and stable within a couple days at most.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macleod View Post
    Nah, if they really cared they'd be taking action against their crappy data center for not protecting themselves better. I've played plenty of other MMOs that had to deal with DDoS attacks, and guess what, none of them lasted for WEEKS. Things were usually fixed up and stable within a couple days at most.
    DDoS attacks aren't really as simple as building a digital wall. Preventative measures can be taken, sure, but when there's so much data clogging up the connections there sadly isn't a whole lot that can be done other than to wait it out. You should probably understand the nature of these attacks. They are very, very difficult to fight back against. I'm sure they've only gotten more advanced over the years as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    DDoS attacks aren't really as simple as building a digital wall. Preventative measures can be taken, sure, but when there's so much data clogging up the connections there sadly isn't a whole lot that can be done other than to wait it out. You should probably understand the nature of these attacks. They are very, very difficult to fight back against. I'm sure they've only gotten more advanced over the years as well.
    Some people just like to bask in their ignorance and blame the people they feel like. I have given up trying to teach, since no one learns. A lot like trying to help people improve in game, as it were. Huh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    DDoS attacks aren't really as simple as building a digital wall. Preventative measures can be taken, sure, but when there's so much data clogging up the connections there sadly isn't a whole lot that can be done other than to wait it out. You should probably understand the nature of these attacks. They are very, very difficult to fight back against. I'm sure they've only gotten more advanced over the years as well.
    Aye, I was just reading about it, and there's many different forms of DDoS, and different ways it can be done. Also, apparently people can pay for DDoS services, so if there's a group of people mad at FFXIV for what ever reason, they don't even need advanced tools to DDoS, they can just throw money at it.

    I have found the FFXIV servers, (when they're not being DDoS'd)are some of the most stable that I have ever played in MMOs, especially considering where I live.
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    Last edited by NessaWyvern; 10-26-2018 at 12:19 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NessaWyvern View Post
    I have found the FFXIV servers, (when they're not being DDoS'd)are some of the most stable that I have ever played in MMOs, especially considering where I live.
    Stable, yes, though badly put together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
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    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macleod View Post
    Nah, if they really cared they'd be taking action against their crappy data center for not protecting themselves better. I've played plenty of other MMOs that had to deal with DDoS attacks, and guess what, none of them lasted for WEEKS. Things were usually fixed up and stable within a couple days at most.
    Every big name mainstream MMO has had weeks to months of DDoS attack issues. So either you do not remember these instances on your other MMO's, or did not play them long enough to experience them, or the other MMO's you played were small and as such only experienced DoS attacks which are far simpler to resolve.


    Its really irksome when people feel the need to post all over about how easy it is to fix things when they have no actual knowledge of what is happening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macleod View Post
    Nah, if they really cared they'd be taking action against their crappy data center for not protecting themselves better. I've played plenty of other MMOs that had to deal with DDoS attacks, and guess what, none of them lasted for WEEKS. Things were usually fixed up and stable within a couple days at most.
    ....What fantasy world are you living in where you think people creating several internet proxies and having them continuously sending massive packets of misinformation to delay and bog down the server has anything remotely 100% failsafe in protecting against it? You can't protect against it and the only thing you could do is have several back-up servers to continue running and hope those don't get DDoS attacked too.

    There's no simple solution besides grinning and bearing with it like everyone else does.

    Quote Originally Posted by Macleod View Post
    What's going on is SE doesn't appreciate us as customers, so we should take our money elsewhere.
    Well, feel free to join the other MMO's where this happens still because you'll never escape it, even places like PSN and Xbox Live get hit with DDoS, Google and Amazon.com as well.
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    Last edited by Sigma-Astra; 10-26-2018 at 12:21 PM.

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