Charged 192$ for a six month subscription

[Dreggit]

It comes out to around a dollar a day, which isn't all that much for avid players who are on every day. For people with other interests as well, who only play this game occasionally, paying that much all the time just to have access to it can seem like a lot.

Unfortunately, as is true in life, if you cannot afford to spend the money on the subscription you regretabbly shouldn't play the game then. You should instead use your money on a more important need until such a time that you can both sustain yourself and your hobbies. If your budget doesn't support your needs and hobbies you can find yourself slowly falling into debt or other issues caused by debt which can set you on a crash course that is hard to recover from.

Just because you want something doesn't mean you can always have it. Understanding and sacrificing what you don't need is unfortunately one of the many parts of being responsible with your money.

If it is absolutely necessary for you to spend your money on a subscription regardless despite being choked on your budget, you should not be using a renewal auto charge to a card but instead use pay cards to add time to your account when you can afford it.

[Vahlnir]

Something to consider if you 'need' a lot of retainers for storage space: they will keep your items even if you cancel the subscription to those retainers. So if you have "long-term storage" items you want to keep but rarely use, you can put them on your highest-numbered retainer(s), then reduce the amount of retainers you have, and let those ones expire. Then you just hire them again occasionally (ideally at the start of a billing month) when you need to access those items.

If they would give us a proper glamour system people wouldn't need to be pack rats, but I digress. I do this myself as needed. I have a separate retainer for a few categories, but I only run...2-3 extra retainers on a monthly basis. The others I will start up only if I need the space momentarily, and they will be promptly deactivated afterwards....well, a month later at least.

[Hakuro89]

The best advice I can give is to be more careful and watch your spending. If you have everything under the sun tacked onto your subscription, of course it's going to go through the roof for a multiple month payment.
And just as many have said, nothing is hidden with the mogstation, all the totals are right out in the open. Notification emails are sent out before the payments hit. You don't really have any fingers to point here.

[Niwashi]

Unfortunately, as is true in life, if you cannot afford to spend the money on the subscription you regretabbly shouldn't play the game then.

I agree completely, but what I pointed out had nothing to do with budgets, so I'm not sure why you quoted it on a post that didn't pertain to anything I said.

What I was discussing was the relative cost for players with different schedules. If you go all out and are paying $1 a day (I'll use that rounded figure for comparisons here) and you're playing every day, that's $1 for each play session. If you're paying the same amount, but playing a couple times a week, it's $3.50 per play session. If you're paying the same amount, but playing a couple times a month, it's $15 for each play session. Your per session or per hour costs vary widely depending on how active you are.

That's what makes subscription games a far better deal for people who tend to focus on one interest at a time and spend all their free time on that particular game (until they tire of it and drop it completely in favor of a new interest) than it is for people who might be actively playing a dozen different games, be in the middle of several different book series, several TV shows, a bunch of different craft projects, and active in several clubs, etc. and are continuously alternating back and forth a bit of time here and there for each.

[CrystalRainbow]

Everything these days has pay creep.

TV Bill $1-5 a year increase unless you call in.
Internet Bill $1-5 a year increase unless you call in.
Phone Bill $1-5 a year increase unless you call in.

Gaming as a service.
I don't see the added value in the extra fee they creep in. I think $2 for a retainer is steep.
I don't see how 200 Data base entries should equal $2

[Vidu]

I don't see the added value in the extra fee they creep in. I think $2 for a retainer is steep.
I don't see how 200 Data base entries should equal $2

If you dont see the added value in an extra retainer, dont pay for one? Its not like they sneakly increased our base-sub or decided to charge for our two standard retainers... and even though I'm paying for two extra retainers aswell and even though they keep adding items: you can get by with only the two standard retainers... so, you really dont have to pay extra, if you dont feel its worth it for you.

[Magnedeus]

Umm...wow. i love this game too, But that's just overkill imo.

[Krokov]

You're not a packrat, you're a compulsive hoarder, I bet you don't even need half of those spaces if you actually went through and managed it all better.

Speaking for myself as a 4* omnicrafter with all but 3 DoW at max level, I have 6 retainers (2 base 4 extra) and I've got about 80 spaces spare on each of them. My inventory is never full, my saddlebag is never full, my armoury chest is never full, my glamour dresser is never full. Truth be told I could condense the retainers down into 3 if I really wanted, but I use them for a steady stream of materials all the time.

From what I've seen most people who complain about inventory space use the glamour/materials/tokens excuse. News flash, you do not need to hold on to those Gordian Bolts or those Cobalt Ingots. You need to regularly have a cleanse of glamour you can easily replace (things you can buy with tomes/marks/etc, anything you can reclaim from a Calamity Salvager). Frankly you need to manage yourself better. There are claims our current inventory space isn't enough, yet I challenge anyone who has more than the standard free retainers to come forward and show me exactly why you are short on space, it just shouldn't happen.

I probably didn't sit well sure I didn't I do have free spots both in my inventory and in my retainers. One reason why I store all that stuff is if I were to drop it all as you suggested or as it appears as you suggested that means I would have to go back and get all that stuff again if I was to get the items related to those mats items in etcetera. But having them with me if it's some point I decide to make this item or get this item I'll already have at least some of the requisite items already in hand. You can call it hoarding if you want and I suppose it is but why I get rid of something if you might use later on specially it's a hard to get.

[MomomiMomi]

I probably didn't sit well sure I didn't I do have free spots both in my inventory and in my retainers. One reason why I store all that stuff is if I were to drop it all as you suggested or as it appears as you suggested that means I would have to go back and get all that stuff again if I was to get the items related to those mats items in etcetera. But having them with me if it's some point I decide to make this item or get this item I'll already have at least some of the requisite items already in hand. You can call it hoarding if you want and I suppose it is but why I get rid of something if you might use later on specially it's a hard to get.

I have never run into a material that I can't just buy off of the market board whenever I need it. Generally, the only cost you're paying is the market board tax, because you already sold the item in the past, you're just paying what your received before to get it back.

It's even more convenient than figuring out where your item is, because you can't even craft from your retainer's inventory. Just search up the item, buy it, and there it is, in your inventory.

[Deceptus]

You're not a packrat, you're a compulsive hoarder, I bet you don't even need half of those spaces if you actually went through and managed it all better.

Speaking for myself as a 4* omnicrafter with all but 3 DoW at max level, I have 6 retainers (2 base 4 extra) and I've got about 80 spaces spare on each of them. My inventory is never full, my saddlebag is never full, my armoury chest is never full, my glamour dresser is never full. Truth be told I could condense the retainers down into 3 if I really wanted, but I use them for a steady stream of materials all the time.

From what I've seen most people who complain about inventory space use the glamour/materials/tokens excuse. News flash, you do not need to hold on to those Gordian Bolts or those Cobalt Ingots. You need to regularly have a cleanse of glamour you can easily replace (things you can buy with tomes/marks/etc, anything you can reclaim from a Calamity Salvager). Frankly you need to manage yourself better. There are claims our current inventory space isn't enough, yet I challenge anyone who has more than the standard free retainers to come forward and show me exactly why you are short on space, it just shouldn't happen.

Eh, I have 3 extra retainers and they're almost all full (5 total). Mostly with gear (currently have 200/200 glamour dresser) I don't want to re-farm but a LOT of them are currencies I don't want to have to farm again. Currencies. . . despite having a currency tab that SE refuses to update.

Every new raid is 7 extra currencies in normal, more on savage, plus EX totems. This game has so much item bloat it's insane.