Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Bright-Flower]

Today in Alphascape:
People still can't do Lar/Starboard. At all. Even with simple instructions and a reliable player marked for following.

IMO I'm not sure that marking people really helps.

There's plenty of time to see the name of the cast and start moving, but the damage comes out quick enough that the added time of having to follow someone else instead of already being on your way to the safe zone could lead to getting hit regardless.

[Ghishlain]

I was in O10N as WHM with two tanks - one I would designate the OT who was kinda oblivious and the other who was an MT trying to MT and really not doing a good job at accumulating enmity.

The first Ahk Morn resolves and I'm at the top of the hate list. Well, that's no problem - the boss hits like a wet noodle and there are no tank busters in P1 so we're good. When I eyed the enmity bar, I noticed that EVERYONE was riding the MT's enmity pretty hard so I just decided to hold onto the boss and position myself in a way to minimize boss movement and dodge mechanics as necessary. I figure if someone should hold it that isn't a tank, it should be someone who can at least heal themselves through the damage.

The MT tried to get hate from me with several provokes and ultimatums but try as he might, he couldn't really hold it from me for too long so I was happy to oblige.

Eventually we get to the phase transition and the dragon pops in. The MT provokes and gets it then get obliterated by the subsequent cleave due to not popping any CDs while I was processing myself to get cleaved in the face and topping myself off. I get the dragon again, and decided to "nope" out, popping my Lucid.

Dragon went to a DPS and cleaved it in the face with two others.

I think by the time the OT realized "Oh, I need to pick up the dragon", 5/8 of the raid had been killed. So, we wipe.

Come the next attempt, it's the same thing so I just enjoy getting whacked around while healing and DPSing. We get to the phase transition, I make sure the MT is topped off and let my healing partner do some of the initial healing as I DPS nails. There was a "NO DO NOT DO THAT" moment when the MT's nail dies and he starts running to another nail that's occupied with 2 melee DPS whether by luck or skill manages to avoid cleaving them >>;

We kill everything, get to the phase transition, I have hate again. I have a healthy amount of hate due to healing through the phase transition - enough where I feel comfortable enough to let the MT provoke off me and Lucid to give them a sizable hate lead against everyone else in the raid due to WHM enmity generation. I actually thought the first Tail End would obliterate me but the MT Provoked in time for me to not get clipped by that.

Outside of the Ahk Morn in the final phase, it was pretty smooth sailing from there.

Despite how crazy the story seems, I had a lot of fun dealing with that stress, lol.

[Berteaux_Braumegain]

Today, I was the pug.

Had an embarrassing Mentor Roulette (Royal Menagerie) where I accidentally got pushed off by Tidal Wave (as did two or three other people, one of which I believe was MT). Amazingly, we didn't wipe and went on to clear, though I also wound up misreading where the tail was falling at one point and wound up walking onto a panel that broke underfoot.

The weird thing is, I got Royal Menagerie a week or two ago and did just fine on it, so it's not like I was still on Shinryu EX timing. Maybe it was just one of those derp days.

[Mesarthim]

Had a Saint Mocianne hard run on tank. It was a smooth run more or less except on that second pack of 5 enemies after the first boss. Some reason the healer let me drop to 1 hp. You heard correctly. If I didn't pop holmgang I'd have died. I do appreciate healer dps but I think that pushed the limit of the "how low can you go" game if I die without my invuln.

And that pack of enemies don't even hurt that much.

[Aosha]

IMO I'm not sure that marking people really helps.

There's plenty of time to see the name of the cast and start moving, but the damage comes out quick enough that the added time of having to follow someone else instead of already being on your way to the safe zone could lead to getting hit regardless.

Yeah, it doesn't do much. But had to try something more after 3 wipes (the instructions mentioned were given after the first), with people actively running the wrong way every single cast. :/
My way of doing it is "Stay on the left. If the first cast is Larboard, move. If the second cast is the same as the first, move." The marker was intended as "if you see me moving, it's the other side." Sure, not a lot of time to react that way, but it's still better than people literally being unable to do it AT ALL on their own.

[Theodric]

Today, I was the pug.

Had an embarrassing Mentor Roulette (Royal Menagerie) where I accidentally got pushed off by Tidal Wave (as did two or three other people, one of which I believe was MT). Amazingly, we didn't wipe and went on to clear, though I also wound up misreading where the tail was falling at one point and wound up walking onto a panel that broke underfoot.

The weird thing is, I got Royal Menagerie a week or two ago and did just fine on it, so it's not like I was still on Shinryu EX timing. Maybe it was just one of those derp days.

I think that happens to most people at some point. Most days when I sign up for a Mentor Roulette I end up getting a guildhest or easy dungeon. Then suddenly one day I'll get something that requires me to think and end up screwing up because I'd fooled myself into thinking the trend would continue.

[TheMightyMollusk]

Leveling an alt, got to Castrum Meridianum. Tanks go to round up all the trash at the beginning and sprint for the road to the first boss. I hit the spotlights.....and forgot about the forced cutscenes, since I haven't actually run the MS Roulette in months. And the enemies don't pause just because you can't hit back.

So yeah, that's how you cause a wipe in Castrum Meridianum.

[Avatre]

Leveling an alt, got to Castrum Meridianum. Tanks go to round up all the trash at the beginning and sprint for the road to the first boss. I hit the spotlights.....and forgot about the forced cutscenes, since I haven't actually run the MS Roulette in months. And the enemies don't pause just because you can't hit back.

So yeah, that's how you cause a wipe in Castrum Meridianum.

Though, while in the cutscene everyone is invulnerable, so as long as the healers are close enough, and they phase back into the game fast enough, you can survive it.

[Voidedge_Ragna]

You forgot something about F-omega being at 20% life left while M-omega is still at 75%, because half the team don't see they are aiming at the wrong target and doing no damage at all. Having to stop attacking because the two healers obviously aren't gonna keep you alive during the laser beam soft enrage

No such thing ... the remaining one does a 15k aoe all. 7 secs. Thats far easier then dealing with dual 70k busters double meteor and cosmo memory. A pld can solo heal himself through lasers.

To hold dmg is never a good idea kill them asap and do not be afraid of a 50 to 0% difference. Any healer worth its salt can solo heal the lasers.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

No such thing ... the remaining one does a 15k aoe all. 7 secs. Thats far easier then dealing with dual 70k busters double meteor and cosmo memory. A pld can solo heal himself through lasers.

To hold dmg is never a good idea kill them asap and do not be afraid of a 50 to 0% difference. Any healer worth its salt can solo heal the lasers.

Just to emphasize this. I had a run the other day where the whole party died except myself (DRK) and the SCH at the very end. Omega-F proceeded to spam Laser Shower. So I repeated put TBN on the SCH, turned on Grit and kept myself alive mostly through DA + Souleater and CDs while they rotated healers on me and themselves. We held out for two full LB bars to generate, which gave us healer LB3.

So am calling foul on the idea of withholding damage. That simply isn't the case. Granted, the person you quoted seems to have a vendetta with FFlogs lately.
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Speaking of logs. On an entirely different run of Suzaku EX, I elected to go Scholar. Now I'll be the first to acknowledge my own inexperience on the job. I know it well enough to perform adequately, but am certainly pulling out any heroics. Anywho! We get through the transition relatively unscathed, but ultimately wipe due to people getting hit by colors, including my co-healer. Afterwards, she accuses me of not using Succor. Which came off... odd. At first I thought maybe my timing was a bit off since I typically play regens for Suzaku. I tried to set them up for the stack while shielding the tank. If you've followed my previous post, I wanted to assure the tanks actually got an Adlo instead of demanding they use Anticipation~.

Things go better the second run until they end, though we do manage to limp through. Well, I hadn't noticed the WHM whining about Succor and Indom, claiming I just wasn't helping her. Now I know I had things covered this time, you know seeing no one died and shields were out. Either way, she kicks me, which was a blessing because oh boy does she get hit by colors a lot.

Fortunately, I happened to have a magic abacus and looked at my casts, just to be certain what I might have done wrong. Turns out that first pull, where she accused me of not using Succor? I had twelve casts. The second? Fourteen. So that was quite interesting to find. Furthermore, where she whined about me not using Succor + Indom, I did have a Succor up and put down Scared Soil. The stack was sufficiently covered. Indom would also be wasted there since only two people were low going in, neither to the point of dying and without any outgoing damage thereafter, HoTs can easily tick people up. My plan was to wait on Eos. More importantly, I was shielding the tank alongside putting down Soil and Succor. Doing some digging, I found out she's only ever run with SCHs or ASTs who have double her healing output (we're talking orange HPS to grey). Now I certainly won't sit here and say I did a stellar job. I probably didn't. But something tells me she was looking to pass the blame...