Let's Talk the Twins and Their End Goals

[Alleo]

Well Elidibus is the only ascians that care about maintaining it.The rest are more or less a Zodiark cult that cares about bringing their god back

And I do kind of wonder if he truly cares about it. For someone that talks all about balance he was quite ready to go out and kill us. We are the last main WoL on the source (as far as we know) thus the last really strong champion for Hydaelyns side. What would happen with the balance if we die? Wouldnt that mean that the Ascians have a free reign and would just create lots of calamities and with that also lots of Darkness too? One Ascians already destroyed a shard with too much Darkness, so could Elidibus really keep them in check?

[RicaRuin]

And I do kind of wonder if he truly cares about it. For someone that talks all about balance he was quite ready to go out and kill us. We are the last main WoL on the source (as far as we know) thus the last really strong champion for Hydaelyns side. What would happen with the balance if we die? Wouldnt that mean that the Ascians have a free reign and would just create lots of calamities and with that also lots of Darkness too? One Ascians already destroyed a shard with too much Darkness, so could Elidibus really keep them in check?

Well, as it is hinted that there will be a Calamity of Light soon... Let's assume a Calamity / Flood of Light is caused by too much, overflowing light. As the WoL, we are an embodiment of light, so killing us would tip the scales towards darkness, making it more balanced than before - so maybe killing us is Elidibus' way of maintaining the balance.

[Alleo]

Well, as it is hinted that there will be a Calamity of Light soon... Let's assume a Calamity / Flood of Light is caused by too much, overflowing light. As the WoL, we are an embodiment of light, so killing us would tip the scales towards darkness, making it more balanced than before - so maybe killing us is Elidibus' way of maintaining the balance.

I do wonder if a calamity of Light can really be dangerous to us at all or if it can even happen on our source. First as far as we know we are only now finally catching up with the plans of the Ascians. We had 7 calamities already that are 7 times that Hydaelyn lost. She herself was was quite weak yet still protected us from harm against Ultima which made it impossible for her to communicate with us thus it seems that our survival was more important than her own state. She needed a vessel to do anything at all after that and only the crystals of the WoD and one of our own gave her enough strenght back to free Minfilia of her role and sent her with the WoDs to stop the Light from destroying anything. We have heard nothing else from her since then so it felt like she must have been able to stop that. So on one hand she is weak, lost a lot thus I just cant see how us freeing some states and killing three black Ascians (where one was even from a shard that is the void now) destroys any kind of balance that much that we will have too much Light soon. On the other hand we know (or believe right now) that Hydaelyn is able to take back Light if its growing too much. So why should too much Light even be dangerous to us?

Also if us stopping a big war from happening by trying to solve things with less direct fights will already be quite bad for that balance than what would that mean for our future? Will we have to let the Ascians win, by creating a calamity that will kill an unknown number of people on the source and will kill a whole shard? I still hope that this is all a plot by Zodiark so that he can get back sooner and that we at the end still stop another one from happening.

[ObsidianFire]

So on one hand she is weak, lost a lot thus I just cant see how us freeing some states and killing three black Ascians (where one was even from a shard that is the void now) destroys any kind of balance that much that we will have too much Light soon. On the other hand we know (or believe right now) that Hydaelyn is able to take back Light if its growing too much. So why should too much Light even be dangerous to us?

Currently, it seems there's a lot more... cosmic infrastructure... in place for Light to regulate itself. Or at least, there would be if Hydaelyn was allowed to function at full strength. She seems to have the power to increase the Light in a given situation when needed (the WoL) and also decrease it as well (her Emissary). Unfortunately, the Ascians make it pretty clear that Hydaelyn is weakening and that they are very happy about that.

As much as we, the WoL are a source of Light, we're not the only people giving the Ascians a hard time anymore. We now know there are people other then us out there who are taking on the Ascians and at least being a nuance (killing of the hosts the Ascians were possessing) or at best really killing them (the Ascians no longer exist). So people who are necessarily agents of Light are making the Darkness have a harder time spreading and who knows what that's doing to the Light/Dark balance. It's almost like there's a third party in play now and we have no idea how that messes with the balance just yet.

Also if us stopping a big war from happening by trying to solve things with less direct fights will already be quite bad for that balance than what would that mean for our future? Will we have to let the Ascians win, by creating a calamity that will kill an unknown number of people on the source and will kill a whole shard? I still hope that this is all a plot by Zodiark so that he can get back sooner and that we at the end still stop another one from happening.

There's two different Light/Dark balances that exist. There's the overarching cosmic one and the one for each shard. The Ascians plan to balance the Cosmic Light/Darkness balance by killing Hydaelyn. In order to do so, they need Zodiark to be restored. Zodiark can't be restored with shards that have had a Flood take place on them though. So the Ascians need to keep the Light/Dark balance of each shard intact until the Shard is Rejoined to the Source. Meanwhile, they also want the Source to have as much Chaos as possible since that is what leads people to summoning primals, which leads to more Rejoinings happening. Which leads to Zodiark reforming faster.

The fact that is seems there's a Calamity coming up with little to no warning (compared to the last one anyway) seems to indicate something has gone wrong and there's been lots of primal summonings somewhere on Hydaelyn. There's never been a Calamity that's come so soon after another one; usually there's a good millennia between Calamities. On the other hand, the 7th Umbral Calamity was a bit of a weird on, so may be that Calamity isn't really over yet?

[MetalSnakeXI1]

And I do kind of wonder if he truly cares about it. For someone that talks all about balance he was quite ready to go out and kill us. We are the last main WoL on the source (as far as we know) thus the last really strong champion for Hydaelyns side. What would happen with the balance if we die? Wouldnt that mean that the Ascians have a free reign and would just create lots of calamities and with that also lots of Darkness too? One Ascians already destroyed a shard with too much Darkness, so could Elidibus really keep them in check?

That's one of my problems with the Ascians as villains for XIV,Elidibus's plans seems a little counterintuitive for his goal cuz he kind of went a little too far in some instances.Cuz if the Warrior of Light dies that's it there goes his plan of balance and yet another world gets destroyed

His current actions using Zenos's body kind of undermines the efforts he went through with Urianger in HW to resolve the problem of the WoD when you think about it.Honestly we need a bit more details than we currently have and it's a problem in SB since the Ascians were so downplayed here up until the Under The Moonlight MSQ patch