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  1. #17611
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    Avatre's Avatar
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    Avatre Drakone
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    Cactuar
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    You forgot to mention how the SCH was actually Adlo-shielding the OFF-TANK during Phantom Flurry.

    The OFF-TANK.
    You know.
    The one NOT currently taking the buster.

    But, yes. 30% RNG parry will save you when your SCH doesn’t know how to play their job.


    (I was the Diurnal AST in this party that pointed out the SCH wasn’t using shields apart from Succor on the MT).
    I know this is slightly off topic...but sort of does fit in with duty finder stories(or future stories at least that may be of/from me)...

    But when does the tank swap happen in there. Is it while Phantom Flurry is still casting?(Same with Tsukuyomi, while she is casting the tank buster - can't remember the name, but she yells WORM right before?)

    That is basically the only thing holding me back from actually going into the newer extreme primals as a tank...not know when to take the boss from the other tank.
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  2. #17612
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    Vaer's Avatar
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    Ein Vaer
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    Excalibur
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Avatre View Post
    I know this is slightly off topic...but sort of does fit in with duty finder stories(or future stories at least that may be of/from me)...

    But when does the tank swap happen in there. Is it while Phantom Flurry is still casting?(Same with Tsukuyomi, while she is casting the tank buster - can't remember the name, but she yells WORM right before?)

    That is basically the only thing holding me back from actually going into the newer extreme primals as a tank...not know when to take the boss from the other tank.
    As long as you have hate when the cast bar is done, it's ok. How it works is it puts a vulnerability on the person taking the tank buster, so if the person who takes the buster gets hit with the autoattack afterwards it 1 shots them (unless creative use of invulns like Hallowed/Holmgang/Living Dead). So you can swap during the cast but as long as you have hate before the first auto after the cast it's fine.

    Suz's Flurry is a very long ability so you have a lot of time. You can actually move behind her as soon as she starts kicking as MT, (the cleave snapshots when she starts kicking and she doesn't turn). If you are the OT taking over just wait until the cleave goes off before moving to the front or you will get knocked off.

    Tsu's buster is a triangle so you don't want to replace the tank in front until you see it go off and if you're MT don't move until it's done. It functions the same way. Swap during the cast. It puts a vulnerability on anyone in the triangle when it goes off causing the next autoattack to deal lethal damage unless invuln.

    The MT can help out by shirking you after you use Provoke to make it go more cleanly and vice versa.
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    Last edited by Vaer; 10-16-2018 at 09:41 AM.

  3. #17613
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    Berteaux_Braumegain's Avatar
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    Berteaux Braumegain
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Avatre View Post
    I know this is slightly off topic...but sort of does fit in with duty finder stories(or future stories at least that may be of/from me)...

    But when does the tank swap happen in there. Is it while Phantom Flurry is still casting?(Same with Tsukuyomi, while she is casting the tank buster - can't remember the name, but she yells WORM right before?)

    That is basically the only thing holding me back from actually going into the newer extreme primals as a tank...not know when to take the boss from the other tank.
    After her Kung-Fu Hustle multi-hit and before the knockback seems to be when I see the Tanks switch.
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  4. #17614
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    kupokage's Avatar
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    Amanda's Husband
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    Exodus
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Oh, O12 NM

    I love dying to unavoidable room wide AoEs as a DPS.

    I love getting rezzed, standing still waiting for a top off and then dying to the next unavoidable room wide AoE after my invuln runs out.

    I love how pugs never separate the pink marker from the stack marker (imma durrr drop em just one yalm away from each other durrr deeerp).

    I love pugs overlapping both pink and stack markers and wiping the raid.
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  5. #17615
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    Melichoir's Avatar
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    Desia Demarseille
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    Sargatanas
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Avatre View Post
    I know this is slightly off topic...but sort of does fit in with duty finder stories(or future stories at least that may be of/from me)...

    But when does the tank swap happen in there. Is it while Phantom Flurry is still casting?(Same with Tsukuyomi, while she is casting the tank buster - can't remember the name, but she yells WORM right before?)

    That is basically the only thing holding me back from actually going into the newer extreme primals as a tank...not know when to take the boss from the other tank.
    With forced tank swaps with tank busters in EX and Savage modes it works like this:

    As soon as the boss starts casting, whomever they were looking at (read has aggro) will take that hit, regardless of what happens next. Im not sure if its that way due to how the game is coded and that was a byproduct they rolled with, or if thats how it was initially intended. In any case, Once the boss starts casting the tank buster, you can pretty much provoke at any time. It is heavily recommended that you provoke early in the cast, to allow the tank to shirk you. The reason being is that if you provoke late, and they dont shirk, or shirk late, the boss may queue up an auto attack when the tank buster ends thatll still hit the MT and kill them. That is probably due to server ticks or something. In any case, its better to provoke early in the cast, so they can shirk you faster.

    Just make sure in Suzu's case, you dont run in front of her till after the entire mechanic is done so you dont get blown off.
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  6. #17616
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    Kleeya's Avatar
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    Kleeya White
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    Shiva
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by kupokage View Post
    Oh, O12 NM

    I love dying to unavoidable room wide AoEs as a DPS.

    I love getting rezzed, standing still waiting for a top off and then dying to the next unavoidable room wide AoE after my invuln runs out.

    I love how pugs never separate the pink marker from the stack marker (imma durrr drop em just one yalm away from each other durrr deeerp).

    I love pugs overlapping both pink and stack markers and wiping the raid.
    You forgot something about F-omega being at 20% life left while M-omega is still at 75%, because half the team don't see they are aiming at the wrong target and doing no damage at all. Having to stop attacking because the two healers obviously aren't gonna keep you alive during the laser beam soft enrage if you finish F-omega right now, then worrying of how your dps will look like crap if the raid end up being successful, and finally hoping for a wipe to not look like an incompetent player in front of the whole world to see if someone else is stupid enough to upload that pathetic attempt of a run on fflogs.
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  7. #17617
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    Bright-Flower's Avatar
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    Nyr Ardyne
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    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kleeya View Post
    You forgot something about F-omega being at 20% life left while M-omega is still at 75%, because half the team don't see they are aiming at the wrong target and doing no damage at all. Having to stop attacking because the two healers obviously aren't gonna keep you alive during the laser beam soft enrage if you finish F-omega right now, then worrying of how your dps will look like crap if the raid end up being successful, and finally hoping for a wipe to not look like an incompetent player in front of the whole world to see if someone else is stupid enough to upload that pathetic attempt of a run on fflogs.
    Hah, wow. I mainaged to solo the last 5% of Omega F once as paladin but I couldn't have kept it going for that long I'm sure.
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  8. #17618
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    HyoMinPark's Avatar
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    Hyomin Park
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    Cactuar
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    Sage Lv 92
    Quote Originally Posted by Kleeya View Post
    You forgot something about F-omega being at 20% life left while M-omega is still at 75%, because half the team don't see they are aiming at the wrong target and doing no damage at all. Having to stop attacking because the two healers obviously aren't gonna keep you alive during the laser beam soft enrage if you finish F-omega right now, then worrying of how your dps will look like crap if the raid end up being successful, and finally hoping for a wipe to not look like an incompetent player in front of the whole world to see if someone else is stupid enough to upload that pathetic attempt of a run on fflogs.
    Literally no one cares about normal mode logs.
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  9. #17619
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    MrMagic's Avatar
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    Mr Magic
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    Ravana
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    So I was solo farming Eureka Anemos for the challenge log when I died to the lvl20 Coffinkeep mob for the Ashkin/Earth part of the log. The instance was almost dead so I wasn't expecting a raise, but I have to try to avoid losing a massive chunk of xp and delevelling. I continued to shout every 2 mins or so until there was nearly a minute remaining. A few more people joined so I shouted one last time and lo and behold my prayers were answered.

    A scholar and their partner (same last name) in a party came up to me with 60 seconds on the clock....and walked right past me to stand by me. Hopped off their chocobo's and continued to stand there for about 20 seconds. I ask for a raise in /say so they know that I am directing at them and still no response, they just stood there.

    Well I got saved in the last 30 seconds by someone else, who I can't thank enough. I suspect that the couple left me to die and have to return just so they could steal my farming spot. Of course being a couple, raising me and joining party would be out of the question, even if it had no drawbacks to completing the challenge log. Also no response to my tell asking why they didn't raise (English selected as a language). Sure enough when I returned 30 minutes later to resume farming, they were there.

    Blacklisted because they're on my server and moving on. I've changed class and gone out of my way to rez people in Eureka because I know how painful it can be to lose a level. It's sad to be treated this way by a player, considering how easy chucking a rez would have been, and it would have been better if they hadn't appeared at all.
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  10. #17620
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    ChaoticCrimson's Avatar
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    Crimson Law
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    Adamantoise
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Yikes, yeah I haven't brought myself to continue in Eureka since I got my Anemos weapons but from what I gather much of the camaraderie players had while Anemos was still relevant dissipated and pulled a total 180 towards a more competitive attitude with the release of Pagos. Seems that's even bleeding back into Anemos now as well, based on that story. At least some people still seem kind enough to help out anyway.
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