1.0 dungeon rambling

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Something people seem to forget whenever "open world content" gets brought up is hunts. People hate them. They aren't fates, they arent instanced, yet the community largely despises them. Why? Because you have to be there when the hunt is active to get credit.

Now lets take an open world dungeon. It has boss inside. Someone kills it. Now you can't until it respawns. Now there is a large group there. Ok, now you have the problem with hunts, either people pull whenever it spawns and a large group miss out on loot, and you have people whining about early pulling and all that garbage again, or you reduce it to being claimable, where only 1 party gets loot. then you have bots and trolls lining up to control the spawns.

Fates are a way to make open world content work. This is why they are so heavily used. You get rid of the "fate" and its just a world mob with a despawn timer. Think of them that way instead, if the word "fate" bothers you so much.

[KaivaC]

Something people seem to forget whenever "open world content" gets brought up is hunts. People hate them. They aren't fates, they arent instanced, yet the community largely despises them. Why? Because you have to be there when the hunt is active to get credit.

/10char

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

/10char

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-community-now

Biggest thread i could find using limited search query on the forums. There have been countless threads over the years, it looks like you only recently joined, and after hunts mostly died down.

Plus, there were lots of shouts on mateus after 4.0 of "Balmung has ruined this server, Balmung players early pull, Early pullers are the worst"

People used to have macros that would target the person the hunt targeted when pulled, call them out in shout, and basically incite mass harassment to that individual, no matter the reason. Hunts used to be more toxic than pvp, and that takes effort.

[zuzu-bq]

Seems like next Eureka instalments will bring something like 1.0 Open Dungeon design, that is based on XI and old MMO stuff.

[Rokke]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-community-now

Biggest thread i could find using limited search query on the forums. There have been countless threads over the years, it looks like you only recently joined, and after hunts mostly died down.

Plus, there were lots of shouts on mateus after 4.0 of "Balmung has ruined this server, Balmung players early pull, Early pullers are the worst"

People used to have macros that would target the person the hunt targeted when pulled, call them out in shout, and basically incite mass harassment to that individual, no matter the reason. Hunts used to be more toxic than pvp, and that takes effort.

Actually if they claim it, it's theirs effectively. Other people are the greedy ones expecting them to wait.

The problem is that people want you to share with half the server, and the system does not support that. Contrary to what people want you to believe, there's a limited amount of people/groups who can get full credit. So waiting can be a problem for those who found or engaged it.

ispano had things figured out back in 2014. The people who hate hunts have always been the lazy that want rewards for free lol



As others have said, the next Eureka is supposed to have "open dungeons". Best start making popcorn now cause its going to be hilarious.

[Gemina]

Now lets take an open world dungeon. It has boss inside. Someone kills it. Now you can't until it respawns. Now there is a large group there.

BCNMs from FFXI is a concept that would avoid this. The dungeon is open world, but the boss is instanced. I feel this is something SE could do well if they just put some thought into it.