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    Pretty sure Endgame Raiders care about the ilvl405 and not being able to dye those gear. I know some ppl who have the ilvl405 gear and they just glamoured over it since it's not skimpy/cute enough. If what everyone says here is true, then most top tier guilds with the current savage gear would be using a dyed version of that armor and not glamour over it.

    Savage rewards raiders with a content just for them and ilvl405 gear. Being able to dye an armor set dropped from Normal Alphascape takes away nothing from the raiders lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RareItems View Post
    Pretty sure Endgame Raiders care about the ilvl405 and not being able to dye those gear. I know some ppl who have the ilvl405 gear and they just glamoured over it since it's not skimpy/cute enough. If what everyone says here is true, then most top tier guilds with the current savage gear would be using a dyed version of that armor and not glamour over it.

    Savage rewards raiders with a content just for them and ilvl405 gear. Being able to dye an armor set dropped from Normal Alphascape takes away nothing from the raiders lol.
    None of them actually said that endgame raiders care about dyeable gears (not ALL of them anyway, but I am 100% sure SOME do), they said it is an 'incentive'.
    Sure, they might not care about them (I don't either, at least for Sigma and Alpha savage), but you clearly do.
    Also ilvl, pfft, shit gets outdated the moment next major patch dropped.
    My Diamond weapon went straight into glamour toilet immediately after I got my Suzaku weapon. i405 might last longer but will still get trumped by Relic eventually and whatever weapons that drop from level 75 dungeon in the next expansion.

    Quote Originally Posted by RareItems View Post
    I'm not going to spend months clearing alpha savage 04 and watching Mr Happy guidesol just to get a dyeable version of the Fending set from Alphascape and dye it Jet Black :P...….or should I xD. haha.
    You could always just wait it out and then come back to smash it in the next expansion unsync'd with your friends. The choice is yours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RareItems View Post
    Pretty sure Endgame Raiders care about the ilvl405 and not being able to dye those gear. I know some ppl who have the ilvl405 gear and they just glamoured over it since it's not skimpy/cute enough. If what everyone says here is true, then most top tier guilds with the current savage gear would be using a dyed version of that armor and not glamour over it.
    I'm raiding - more for the fun of it - and I actually dont care that much about my ilvl.
    I wont care for every piece of gear/glamour, because I dont like every piece, but for those that I like, I care very much about having them dyeable. So yes, it is an incentive to raid, at least for me. Even more so, since they took the story away and put it into NM. Its kinda funny, how you made this suggestion because you have a desire for this gear to be dyeable, but assume that no raider could possibly share that, just because the handful you know happend to care more about their 405-weapon. Trust me: Raiding doesnt turn everyone into a person whos blind for anything but numbers. Glamour is still our endgame!

    I actually didnt raid in HW, but always wanted the Midan tankcoat and me and some friends just went back to get it - guess what: I havent even glamoured it yet, but that doesnt mean I dont care about it nor about it being dyeable.
    If you want the stuff, but dont want to raid properly - wait for 5.0, level 80 and unsych.

    Even though, as I said - personally I could see an upgrade-system like with the tomegear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RareItems View Post
    Pretty sure Endgame Raiders care about the ilvl405 and not being able to dye those gear. I know some ppl who have the ilvl405 gear and they just glamoured over it since it's not skimpy/cute enough. If what everyone says here is true, then most top tier guilds with the current savage gear would be using a dyed version of that armor and not glamour over it.

    Savage rewards raiders with a content just for them and ilvl405 gear. Being able to dye an armor set dropped from Normal Alphascape takes away nothing from the raiders lol.
    Its not your place to decide weather SE makes only savage gear dyable or not. They decided to do so, now live with that and do savage or don't. Oh btw there are also enough raiders who see glamour as the true endgame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fhaerron View Post
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    That's a lot of catering for a very small percentage of the playerbase. I'm not saying no incentive needs to be given but that's going too far.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ilan View Post
    Its not your place to decide weather SE makes only savage gear dyable or not. They decided to do so, now live with that and do savage or don't.
    They also decided to put Greed Only in Alliance Raids, we saw how long that lasted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyKaplan View Post
    That's a lot of catering for a very small percentage of the playerbase. I'm not saying no incentive needs to be given but that's going too far.
    What's going to far? By my knowledge Minions & Mounts and all that stuff are only obtainable in EX anyway (ruling out the few minions you can get in some dungeons) > mostly talking about endlvl here.
    As for the max ilvl weapons at each tier you don't need it outside Ex, Savage, Ultimate, etc.
    It's the same thing as dye-able gear if you want it then do Savage. Imo I would be fine with allowing normal gear dye-able instead but keeping max ilvl to Savage only.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyKaplan View Post



    They also decided to put Greed Only in Alliance Raids, we saw how long that lasted.
    Yeah because thats exactly the same as the topic, right? How about we stop comparing pineapples with apples?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Good talk, all. Glad we had it.
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