Things to think about before you call someone "Bad"

[HyoMinPark]

I can deal with bad players, and do all the time. I much prefer them over toxic players.

As has been pointed out, there are myriad of reasons why a player is playing poorly, but I never take it upon myself to try an improve a player's performance. They did not solicit any advice, and so it will not be received positively in most cases. There is the argument that a player may not know they're bad, but the issue here as I see it is a player who actually cares about their performance will continue to strive to get better regardless of their current skill. On their own, and will likewise seek out advice.

In a case where one player is trying to force feed a rotation to another member, I am actually going to consider the former to be more toxic unless the latter is clearly trolling. This doesn't warrant advice though; it warrants a swift boot from the party. I say that because the player trying to give advice is disrupting the run to do so, and for very little if any benefit at best. Since giving unwanted advice serves more to lengthen the run, and piss off others, it is actually falls more in line with the definition to trolling than the person playing poorly.

Again, a lot of people aren’t talking about content like dungeons. We’re talking about high-end content where knowing your rotation is absolutely necessary (and, honestly, people should know their rotations in dungeons as well). It is far more toxic for a SAM to join in on an Extreme farm party and proceed to use their AOE combos or spam Enpi on a boss as opposed to single-target because “lol this is how I want to play these animations look cooler” compared to the person who would say “Hey, please use your single-target rotation on a boss because it’s more effective and deals more damage”.

When you start joining endgame content, you should know how your job functions. No one is expecting perfection, but if you are a MNK not hitting positionals or a BRD not using their songs or a SMN that won’t use a pet, you are clearly not fit to be in level 70 content of any kind. And it’s not “toxic” to have other people point out your shortcomings in content where you should know how your job plays.

^ this
With alphascape nm especially, when runs go bad I try to remember that some people may be new, or are still trying to get used to the fight.
Not everyone gets mechanics down pat after their first clear.

I'll take a couple wipes with someone sincerely doing their best to clear over a player who feels the need to belittles others if they don't play the way they want them to any day.

But like, if you're having any issues, please let your party know. Most people are willing to help if you ask//

No, people don’t get all the mechanics down pat after their first clear. But that’s still not an adequate defense for a BLM doing only 3,000 DPS in the first minute of the fight where the mechanics are quite simple because they want to only use Blizzard III (you probably think I’m joking, but I’m not; I actually got a BLM who only used Bliz III in V12N last week—and judging from other existing logs of theirs, that is legitimately how they play in all content; it wasn’t just them trolling on a random V12N run).