For everybody: Don’t join Clear- or Farmparties if you don’t know the fight!

[Aomine1992]

What grinds my gears is people creating and joining "farm" parties when they've only got a single kill under their belt. Just because you've got one kill doesn't make you farm ready. For all I know you scraped through that kill or got carried and you're no where near optimised enough to farm. Stick to practice/kill groups.

I understand your way of thinking and am inclined to agree but if someone has a kill do you really expect them to go to another one of the many bad clear parties to get more kills lol ain't nobody got time for that!

[Dirwen]

That post? Yes.

The actual words? I wish.

Just wanted to say your post made me smile even if it wasn't your intention.

[Kuroka]

But how am i supposed to get my carry then? Q_Q

[Berteaux_Braumegain]

What grinds my gears is people creating and joining "farm" parties when they've only got a single kill under their belt. Just because you've got one kill doesn't make you farm ready. For all I know you scraped through that kill or got carried and you're no where near optimised enough to farm. Stick to practice/kill groups.

I wiped on Suzaku EX so many times in clear parties that by the time I actually cleared, I was able to write a dissertation on the fight and its mechanics.

That's the good thing about clear parties, I guess. You're going to wipe so often that you will know mechanics by the end. Hopefully.

[Kurando]

You know only gets sad when despite the multiple runs, no progress is made at all. I mean if you go in to a farm party with little experience but you know your mistakes and fix them pretty quickly then it ain't too bad, but constantly stubbling on different things and showing few signs of improving then that's when it becomes a problem.

[KABESSA]

How about you just put duty complete on Pf? Tired of these lv 70/60 that don't know how to use party finder. Btw how about the scrubs who live pratice parties after one run and put ''I thought that was a farm pt...''. People need to start read the pf and descriptions.

[Cheremia]

How about you just put duty complete on Pf? Tired of these lv 70/60 that don't know how to use party finder. Btw how about the scrubs who live pratice parties after one run and put ''I thought that was a farm pt...''. People need to start read the pf and descriptions.

The thing is, you usually can‘t do this for clear parties. Clear is different from farm.
But clear is also different from practice.
Some can just forget for farm parties but they usually do have that requirement.

So many practicerungs and people choose to go into the one that says „got to enrage multiple times, know the fight“.

Also mistakes happen, you don‘t look and join the wrong party but... i‘m pretty sure some people do it on purpose and expect s carry because other people know.



It‘s just starting to get real bad and i guess i‘ll have to go toxic if that is what it takes to get a clear when I don‘t have 5 hours to teach others.

[IzVale]

2 of my fc members joined a "kill" party yesterday. From what I gathered, their group died a lot in the first Phase.. never checked if they ever cleared it.
I mean, I get the idea of joining an actual Kill group, to learn and see how it's done - but that requires the majority of the party to actually know and survive the fight. So I am wondering how many peeps start a party with the tags clear/farm without even self having enough knowledge and movement about the fight?

[Duskane]

i have never joined a clear group that actually clears
i always clear it with the later practice groups that sticks together for ages that ends up clearing it

[Yui_Tenshi]

I do wish people did read for farm party that they must know the mechanics. You aren't farming if you wipe ~80% of the time.

I normally run practice parties to learn each individual phase. And then I join clear parties until I've cleared several times in them and fully understand each phase. Then I join farm parties when I'm confident I won't die and just want to farm weapons and mounts. And if everyone knows their stuff, you can get several runs in a few hours with no wipe. That's only happened once for me and it was for Tsukuyomi EX: we all got a weapon we wanted in a few hours and a few lucky ones even got the mount. First time I had a good solid PUG run.