Ailments, the bad guys and you

[Lilseph]

I think CC immunity is a necessary evil for bosses to make players actually do the encounter. Being able to stun say.. Construct 8’s math mechanic would be pretty silly. Most of the newer encounters have mechanics that are integreal to the fight itself to a point where being able to choose to ignore any of them would make it way too easy. That I can understand. What I don’t understand is why trash mobs (especially dungeons) in particular have to be CC immune too when stun (Holy comes to mind) is a thing that still works. I mean, you’re going to have to clear out all the enemies to proceed further anyway. o.o

[Myvar]

There was an add in Omega 2.3 Savage whose cast could be interrupted.

[Berteaux_Braumegain]

I sure love doing Labyrinth of the Ancients and being able to stun bosses, only to go to literally any post-50 content and seeing nothing happen.

[Rongway]

What I don’t understand is why trash mobs (especially dungeons) in particular have to be CC immune too when stun (Holy comes to mind) is a thing that still works. I mean, you’re going to have to clear out all the enemies to proceed further anyway. o.o

I can't speak to the devs' decisions regarding trash mobs' immunities, but I think making mobs succeptible to bind, heavy, and sleep would have trivial benefit.

Heavy is not a useful CC outside of very specific mechanics where mobs are scripted to move from point A to point B and must be killed before reaching their destination (Dreadknights in T5, slimes in Amon fight). In a trash encounter, there should be a tank, who won't care about heavy; and if a mob is chasing after a healer or a DD, the correct course of action is to kill it quickly in place or run to the tank, not to kite the mob. So heavy would be useless on trash.

Bind and Sleep break on hit, which make them particularly useless if anyone is a DoTter or an AoEer, which is literally everyone after the 40s, and most people as early as the 20s. If you find yourself in a dungeon trash encounter where you think you would benefit from being able to sleep the pack, then either the party is pulling too big for the current combination of tank's and healer's gear and skill, or the party needs to make more effective use of DoTs and AoEs.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

I do find it a little odd how XIV has opted to mostly faze out the use of crowd control effects when other MMOs like WoW tend to regularly see use of them even in their raid encounters.

Sadly, it's mostly to accommodate lesser skilled players who can't handle much in the way of complexity. Which I find somewhat ironic considering the mechanics they come up with for Savage and Ultimate. Why not incorporate CC into the equation too?

I think CC immunity is a necessary evil for bosses to make players actually do the encounter. Being able to stun say.. Construct 8’s math mechanic would be pretty silly. Most of the newer encounters have mechanics that are integreal to the fight itself to a point where being able to choose to ignore any of them would make it way too easy. That I can understand. What I don’t understand is why trash mobs (especially dungeons) in particular have to be CC immune too when stun (Holy comes to mind) is a thing that still works. I mean, you’re going to have to clear out all the enemies to proceed further anyway. o.o

In theory, yes. But they could always design it so those mechanics are simply delayed. One thing I hoped from when we were skipping things back in HW was come SB, if you phased a mechanic early, it'd simply come back later. This adds a neat layer of control on the players as you'd decide when you want to deal with the mechanic. That being said, stuns and whatnot could interrupt only certain moves but not major mechanics. It'd just be nice to see them utilized more. I legit only ever put Leg Sweep on my bar when I tried solo-ing Anemos on a DPS. Otherwise, it doesn't deserve a slot. Even now, with full access to all ten role actions, I don't even have it selected. There isn't any purpose.

[Kazrah]

While understandable that player and dev preferences may lead away from usage of CC abilities these days, I'd still love to see a job that could apply paralysis.

[Rongway]

While understandable that player and dev preferences may lead away from usage of CC abilities these days, I'd still love to see a job that could apply paralysis.

Paralysis could be marginally interesting. Of course it wouldn't ever interrupt any real mechanics (anything that affects the arena or must be handled in a specific way) but it could be made into a damage mitigation tool by canceling a moderate percentage of auto-attacks and having a small chance to interrupt vanilla tank/raid busters.

[Edax]

Maybe it's just my imagination, but I also get the impression that the melee dps limit break is doing less and less % damage to the bosses in the latest content. To the point that I don't even notice that the boss has even been hit by a 3-bar limit break. It's starting to feel like each individual player has less influence in a boss fight by each patch.

[Ekimmak]

Paralysis is really dumb. I recall using a paralysis potion on an enemy when they were still able to suffer it, and nothing happened. And yet when I get hit with it, it's the worst thing ever, causing me to get stunned every two seconds or something ridiculous.

[Tint]

We do get immunity to debuff's like stun and sleep in PVP.

And there is food that give Resistance to ailments.

Red Drop
Blue Drop
Clear Drop
Purple Drop
White Drop
Black Drop
Yellow drop
Green Drop

Uh, the irony...

these items are no longer obtainale, the recipes were removed from the game, so you can't craft them anymore.