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    Make Garleans playable using the para-magic system from VIII to justify their magic use.

    Honestly though, I'd rather see more original content and world... stuff... thangs...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cilia View Post
    Make Garleans playable using the para-magic system from VIII to justify their magic use.

    Honestly though, I'd rather see more original content and world... stuff... thangs...
    Not that I particularly want garleans, I feel they'd just be big hyur with forehead dots, but one could simply say that the Echo allows the WoL to use magic. Problem solved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bright-Flower View Post
    Not that I particularly want garleans, I feel they'd just be big hyur with forehead dots, but one could simply say that the Echo allows the WoL to use magic. Problem solved.
    I was just trying to think of a way to get more elements from VIII into the game; if there's one game in the franchise that tends to be underrepresented in a crossover (such as this) it tends to be VIII in my experience. Probably because that one was a romance at its core and had some atypical elements (level scaling, even more modern setting than VII).

    Maybe we'll run into Esthar or something. /shrug
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cilia View Post
    I was just trying to think of a way to get more elements from VIII into the game; if there's one game in the franchise that tends to be underrepresented in a crossover (such as this) it tends to be VIII in my experience. Probably because that one was a romance at its core and had some atypical elements (level scaling, even more modern setting than VII).
    There are tonnes of elements in VIII that could be taken from, not just the Squall/Rinoa plot. Hell, you have 3 armies at least with their own enemies that could easily have been seen in the garlean empire already. Big garlean spider tank? Big blue tank with a laser beam? Imagine a garlean academy with allusions to Galbadia garden (Just don't call it Galbadia Garden, or even a garden at all).

    I hate when this game directly lifts things from other FF games though, I don't mind models coming over, like the guard scorpion as part of the garlean empire, or the snail thing from VI being a boss and now random enemy, but when literal NPCs and iconic characters and plots are brought over, I feel like it cheapens XIV as its own product. The allagans have felt gimmicky since they are derived from FF3, and every part of the origin is a retelling of that game. Dalmasca being a core part of Othard now, makes me lose any immersion for the area. Its nothing but fanservice and makes the game feel shallow. I think the only exception when it comes to location is costa del sol, because there are no FF7 references other than the name.

    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    Not a rip of a city from that world, just some of its architecture, and themes.
    This. There is a big difference between a subtle nod, a boss that is a throwback, or a bit of dialogue reference, and literally inserting X iconic part of Y game into eorzean lore and canon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    There are tonnes of elements in VIII that could be taken from, not just the Squall/Rinoa plot. Hell, you have 3 armies at least with their own enemies that could easily have been seen in the garlean empire already. Big garlean spider tank? Big blue tank with a laser beam? Imagine a garlean academy with allusions to Galbadia garden (Just don't call it Galbadia Garden, or even a garden at all).

    Potentially the Magitek Academy in Garlemald will draw from the Gardens?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mieck View Post
    Potentially the Magitek Academy in Garlemald will draw from the Gardens?
    Which is would be great, but I'd hate it if they start throwing the words garden and SeeD around
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