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    WHM raising macro

    Anyone able to help me get a raising macro that cycles through the entire party to find who needs raising first? thanks in advance
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    Ummm, why would you want that? You can easily see who is down on the party list and make your choice that way. The only macro for Raise that I have is tying it to Swiftcast.
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    This is a RDM macro for party list in order of RDM-tank-tank-healer-healer-DDs and will need modification.

    Code:
    /ac Verraise <mo>
    /ac Verraise <t>
    /ac Verraise <4>
    /ac Verraise <5>
    /ac Verraise <2>
    /ac Verraise <3>
    /ac Verraise <8>
    /ac Verraise <7>
    /ac Verraise <6>
    /wait 1
    /p Verraise  Just used it.
    /micon Verraise
    Priorities:
    • Raise explicit targets (mouseover, target).
    • Raise a healer (4, 5.... if you are WHM, this will probably be 2 instead)
    • Raise someone who can provoke the things that are now about to eat you because you were #2 on enmity list (2, 3.... this will be whichever slots are tanks)
    • Raise a DD who is more likely to be a raiser (start from bottom (8) and work up)



    Quote Originally Posted by Numenor1379 View Post
    Ummm, why would you want that? You can easily see who is down on the party list and make your choice that way. The only macro for Raise that I have is tying it to Swiftcast.
    Swiftcast should be its own button anyway. A smart raise macro lets you press it without having to switch targets so you can minimize the amount of time spent thinking about the raise and maximize the time spent killing things.
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    Last edited by Rongway; 09-24-2018 at 05:40 AM.
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    Eh, don't remember exactly how I wrote the maco but the way it works is that I can press Swiftcast once and use it on any spell. If I press it twice it will then do Raise. If Swiftcast is down a double press activates Raise normally.

    Works well enough and I personally always want to use Swiftcast on Raise if possible.
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    I never really needed a macro... when someone dies, it isn't too much trouble to hit the F-key to target whoever needs it..... Swiftcast...Raise. done. go on to do other things.

    I'd rather think that a macro like this doesn't let you choose who needs the raise the most in a scenario in which two people are down.

    If you're the RDM and your group is in trouble and you have a WHM and a SCH and they both go down.... who do you raise first?

    IMO, the WHM, assuming they are of similar skill/gear. The WHM can put out a lot more emergency healing a lot faster than the SCH can and has better MP efficiency and can get back into it faster/easier.

    But with your above macro, if the WHM is the 2nd healer and the SCH is the first, you're getting the SCH up first.

    Or let's say, tanks. You got a PLD and a DRK, and by some weird situation, both go down. You obviously want the PLD up first because he's more durable and has Clemency that he can look after himself for a few seconds once he has enough time to get a bit of MP. But... again, the macro does first tank then second which could be problematic.

    EDIT: Now, sure I know these are very niche situations, but still. They are not impossible, and I think I'd rather pick and choose who I raise instead of having a macro do it for me.

    EDIT: Mist Dragon, the first couple times I did it. Both DPS dead. A RDM and someone else that wasn't a SMN. Obviously I want the RDM back up ASAP. Because if both me and RDM is down we wipe. If one of us is still alive, there's a glimmer of hope. Actually did have a successful kill... I died, the RDM raises me.... then he dies, and I raised him.... then I died again and he raised me.... we killed the boss. But, if a macro had raised the other DPS... we would have been sunk.
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    Last edited by Maeka; 09-26-2018 at 12:35 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maeka View Post
    But with your above macro, if the WHM is the 2nd healer and the SCH is the first, you're getting the SCH up first.

    Or let's say, tanks. You got a PLD and a DRK, and by some weird situation, both go down. You obviously want the PLD up first because he's more durable and has Clemency that he can look after himself for a few seconds once he has enough time to get a bit of MP.
    WHM automatically sorts higher on the enmity list than SCH and AST. The only issue would be distance -- if the WHM is out of range, it'll raise the other healer instead. PLD also sorts higher on the party list than DRK.

    Quote Originally Posted by Maeka View Post
    EDIT: Mist Dragon, the first couple times I did it. Both DPS dead. A RDM and someone else that wasn't a SMN. Obviously I want the RDM back up ASAP. Because if both me and RDM is down we wipe. If one of us is still alive, there's a glimmer of hope. Actually did have a successful kill... I died, the RDM raises me.... then he dies, and I raised him.... then I died again and he raised me.... we killed the boss. But, if a macro had raised the other DPS... we would have been sunk.
    The first non-deliberate target in the macro is 4, which in a light party will always be a RDM or a SMN if they exist.

    Your concerns are understandable but unfounded. And anyway, the point of the macro is, "If I don't want to explicitly declare my target, I don't have to." I can still park my mouse over someone if I want to focus on raising them first. It's not a "raise whoever" macro. It's a smart priority-based macro with these things thought out.
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