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  1. #11
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    Janhyua's Avatar
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    Janhyua Yotsuyu
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    Tonberry
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    Samurai Lv 80
    If they make pet tank it will be hard to heal due to the player list as most healer use the list to select party member to heal unless they change that.. tank beast master will never happen
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    Rongway's Avatar
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    Cyrillo Rongway
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    Hyperion
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Janhyua View Post
    If they make pet tank it will be hard to heal due to the player list as most healer use the list to select party member to heal unless they change that.. tank beast master will never happen
    There are many problems with pets as tanks. Targeting isn't one of them, though. Set a keybind for Target of Target, to swap quickly back and forth between the mob and the tank, or mouseover the target of target health bar.
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  3. #13
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    Ku Rando
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    Alpha
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    There are many problems with pets as tanks. Targeting isn't one of them, though. Set a keybind for Target of Target, to swap quickly back and forth between the mob and the tank, or mouseover the target of target health bar.
    For players that use controller or are on console (and don't use keyboard or mouse) targeting will still be an issue regardless.
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  4. #14
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    Dualblade's Avatar
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    Juyon Intoner
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Ninja will forever be the only job (and class for Rogue) to be added in a patch instead of an expansion, and thats because it was planned to be released when ARR came out. Getting it finished to add in when it was added quite a bit more work compared to being done for the next expansion like other jobs is the biggest factor.

    So at best BLU will be 5.0.
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  5. #15
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    Julis Slivers
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    Coeurl
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    Samurai Lv 67
    Thy can put spell farming in all thy need to do is patch gameplay also thy need to change experience farming to bring back group experience grinding its stupid tht u see mobs out in the field but there exp is to low it need to be higher just like dungeons because queue is so slow so raising experience farming can be a good change to this game thy way we can keep killing till queue start as for pet tank there is a focus target system in game tht help if u didn't know also thy can give bestmaster the reward heal tht heal pet thn u heal the player only there r alot of ways to do everything just u Can't be lazy to do it just get thm done
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    Last edited by Starcake28; 09-27-2018 at 04:26 AM.

  6. #16
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    Cyrillo Rongway
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starcake28 View Post
    Wall of unpunctuated text
    Please. Punctuate.
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    Cyrillo Rongway
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurando View Post
    For players that use controller or are on console (and don't use keyboard or mouse) targeting will still be an issue regardless.
    Set a button to do
    Code:
    /ta <tt>
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  8. #18
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    Ku Rando
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
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    I think it misses the point that players shouldn't have to rely on macros or additional peripherals (keyboard and mouse) to play the game effectively. If it were so simple you would have a higher percentage of players voluntarily healing pets/turrets belonging to others, but generally they get away with using aoe effects (like Medica) instead as they don't require specific targeting.

    So again regardless for some players targeting IS an issue, just because you might not have any and you have a solution for yourself, doesn't mean it works for others.
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  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurando View Post
    If it were so simple you would have a higher percentage of players voluntarily healing pets/turrets belonging to others, but generally they get away with using aoe effects (like Medica) instead as they don't require specific targeting.
    It's not surprising that we don't see people healing pets and turrets that belong to others, because those pets aren't tanks and so obviously don't fall under the simple solution of targeting a target's target. The discussion Janhyua brought up is specifically about healing pets as tanks, which fall under the special case of being able to be healed easily by target of target targeting or mouseover.
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  10. #20
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    Dia Beetus
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    Behemoth
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
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    I think healing the pet tank is the least of the issues of having a pet tank. It would be a nightmare to balance as you would essentially have a 9th member of the party. The pet will either just assist the master with tanking and thus both pet and master be somewhat underwhelming. Or if the pet actually tanks then the masters stats would be nerfed to the ground and become something like a controller ala command missions. Trying to fulfil the fantasy without making the class broken or OP would be really tough.
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