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  1. #181
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    Kacho_Nacho's Avatar
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    Kacho Nacho
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    Quote Originally Posted by miraidensetsu View Post
    Sorry to inform you, but those lalas that throw themselves at you are minority. An noisy minority, I'd say.

    And I knew and played with a plenty of lala players. I even was from a LS full of lalas. No one throw themselves at other players. No one even spam emotes. But that isn't enough to keep the hatred down.

    That's because haters - like you - have those noisy minority as a "default lalafell". And to them, no matter what a lalafell player does, that hatred won't go down. Not even a bit. That's because the hatred is on you, not on lala players.

    But if you have some problem with some specific lala players, I invite you to tell GM about it. They will most likely be banned for harassment.
    Well said, Miraidensetsu.

    No offense, Schan but I have never observed some of the behavior you've described. Perhaps it's a case of confirmation bias?

    Now, the Master Race meme I've seen. It's a silly meme.
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  2. #182
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    Schan's Avatar
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    Schan Starfall
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    Quote Originally Posted by miraidensetsu View Post
    An noisy minority, I'd say.
    This is my point. Unfortunatly they are noisy enough to actually aggravate other players, hence generating the hate.

    If you want to lump me with the "haters" because i'm trying to compile a list of possible reasons as to why such hate exists then feel free i guess.

    I would welcome you to be a bit less defensive when it comes to the race of your preference. I would also guess that that defensiveness is what makes people enjoy taking jabs at some races. *points at Zepla's video on how to annoy the 6 races*

    With that said, keep up the good work of deconstructing the lala stereotype. You keep being you.

    @Kacho_Nacho
    I'm glad you have never seen such behaviour, but just because you have never experienced it does not mean that it does not exist.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mutemutt View Post
    Some people love stale, low effort memes. Honestly, having that same lame joke used on me all the time just comes off as obnoxious.
    also this. so much this regardless of race.
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    Last edited by Schan; 09-19-2018 at 07:55 AM.

  3. #183
    Player Gothicshark's Avatar
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    Marielle Sansoleil
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrMaverick View Post
    (Hey, that rhymed!)

    At the risk of sounding like one of those people that whine about people disliking the race I play, I just wanted to ask. Where exactly did the whole thing against Lalafells originate? I hate to sound whiny but this is a legitimate question. I\\'m honestly unsure about the whole thing. Is it because gnomes from WoW have basically made people hate any short races in MMOs? Is it because people think Lala players are lolicons or wannabe-kid diddlers or something? Or is the Lalafell hate about as common as the dragoon joke, IE, Nonexistent? Is it all of the above? Is it one of the above? Or none of the above?

    One another note, I wholly agree that the makes are kind of creepy. One of the few times they haven\\'t been crept to me is a cross-dressing glamour set I saw on the glamour set site. That says something about the female Lalafells.

    On yet another note, if you hate Lalafells because of Teledji… I wholeheartedly agree. He\\'s a c-
    Long Time MMO player, played many of them going back to the days of Muds.

    Here's what I have seen, people always make a meme about 'Punting', 'hate' ect on the small cute races. In WOW it was Gnomes, in Wildstar it was the bunny eared folks and the Beaver people thingies. In FFXIV Lala's. It's just a people being stupid really. The only time it ever actually affected anything was in early world PVP in games like WOW when people where mouse clickers for targeting and they were a large race character, ie Tauren vs Gnome. The Gnome would have an advantage in this one case because the Tauren would have difficulty mouse clicking the the gnome.

    I just want to say eve that very specific issue was fixed in WOW by adding big giant nameplates by pressing "V".


    I always felt people OOC ragging on people for the Race they want to play is insulting and petty. I have characters of all sizes, shapes, genders, and I enjoy playing them all.
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  4. #184
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    Gralna's Avatar
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    Got a chuckle out of this.

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  5. #185
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    Ramesses's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gralna View Post
    Got a chuckle out of this.

    Wow.

    Just...wow... I'm really surprised at how I missed this dialogue.
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  6. #186
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    I went Lala a few days ago for several reasons: A) Best way to signal that you are not interested in the mmo dating market. I want to play the game, not date, romance, marry or flirt. B) I enjoy funny things and I can laugh about myself. I'm not in that phase anymore where I need to play that badass edgy brooding topless DRK mary sue character to feel badass. I rather look at a char that makes me smile and chuckle. C) I like how the world feels so much bigger.

    I met some obnoxious Lala players before, I understand the bias. Same as with the French stigma. Not all are like that, but if the majority of our experiences follows a certain pattern, we get prejudiced, that's just human.
    Personally I didn't encounter any hate so far side from the usual banter. I have no problem with that, because I like dishing it out myself. I don't notice any difference in how I'm being treated, aside from the occasional /pet, and not getting hit on anmore by shirtless dude bros, which is amazing xD
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  7. #187
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    SugarPuff's Avatar
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    Chimrit V'thari
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    I think the food references migrated from FFXI along with the players who did, although in my experience it's par for the course in any fantasy setting that throws together two races of extremely disparate size. To a certain extent. My Lalafell character is named after breakfast cereal, which is definitely a holdover from my FFXI days.

    If a lifelong love of horror movies has taught me anything it's that one reliable method of giving a lot of people the creeps is to show them something seemingly childlike and innocent, then reveal it's darker nature. I think for some, the idea of a Lalafell evokes that automatic dislike or distrust and it can carry over from "this concept disturbs me" to "people who aren't also bothered by this concept disturb me".

    I've never experienced any negative reactions to my Lalafell character and I love playing her; that's just my opinion on what it is about them that might provoke a negative response, based mainly on a few conversations I've had with people who dislike the race because they're "creepy". I get curious about stuff like that.
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  8. #188
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    Lala Black mages ( females especially) make the most annoying noises when casting. They are the reason I tend to play with the game muted.
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  9. #189
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    Karuru Karu
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    Shiva
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    Quote Originally Posted by spf1200 View Post
    Lala Black mages ( females especially) make the most annoying noises when casting. They are the reason I tend to play with the game muted.
    Casters don't make noises? o.ô; Except the noise of the explosions maybe, but that's not race specific.

    Usually bards are the ones with the annoying sounds ^^ And I think that one Miqote voice tops anything Lalas have to offer >.>

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hhPOXv9PFQ
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    Last edited by Tint; 10-12-2018 at 10:04 PM.

  10. #190
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    Iscah's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gralna View Post
    Got a chuckle out of this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ramesses View Post
    Wow.

    Just...wow... I'm really surprised at how I missed this dialogue.
    I saw that too! You only get it if you talk to Byakko immediately after defeating Suzaku but before talking to Genbu (who is standing right there with a "continue quest" marker).

    Always talk to everyone before you progress to the next step of the quest!
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