SE: Can we get back skip cutscene in Main Scenarios?

[Iscah]

As a programmer, this argument has always baffled me. Just how much time and resource do you think this would take? I guarantee you, they could resolve this in a single day if they really wanted to. They probably spent more time creating the systems to make the scenes unskippable than they would rethinking two insignificant dungeons.

I'm not sure if they would have to create a separate system to make the scenes unskippable. It's not just happening in the dungeon - it's also affected the version in the "Unending Journey" cutscene viewer. So whatever they've done, it seems to be a blanket change to that cutscene, however you access it, rather than a targeted "prevent skipping while in this dungeon" system. (And on a scene-by-scene basis as the post-final-boss cutscene in each dungeon is still able to be skipped.)

There's also already an option to turn on auto-scroll for other cutscenes, and there are other scenes that can't be skipped - like the "waiting to see if the door opens" scene in the Lost Canals. So both those systems exist in the game already.

I'm not a programmer, but I'm guessing it would be just something like a small change to disable the 'skip cutscene' button and automatically turn on auto-scroll for that file?


I think they chose to do it this way (rather than more complex adjustments or inventing a "sometimes enabled sometimes not" system) because it was a way they could change it without having to invest time and work into rebuilding how the system handles it.

[TaranTatsuuchi]

As I type this, I'm mid-Prae, and while most of the group did not want to skip CSs, there is a pair who is doing just that. Just about completed the first boss entirely before we got out of CS, etc. And of course since that first pack of mobs wasn't killed, we still show 'in-combat', so a vote dismiss can't be initiated.

ETA: So a vote dismiss DID manage to get through finally, but was turned down. I think they're being good now

But really, why queue for this stuff if you don't want to deal with the time?

Considering SE created the system to intentionally prevent people from skipping...

I see valid reasons to report these types for exploitation.



They are intentionally exploiting a flaw in the system to bypass a system the developers put in specifically to prevent what they're accomplishing with the exploit.
They are literally doing the opposite of the devs intentions.

[Ceallach]

This is exclusively Square's fault for designing such garbage and refusing to maintain it. Players gonna play, and SE's folly if they think they can fight that.

Square had hoped for better character in the game's players and was disappointed. You got what you deserved. You think it's garbage? They don't need your sub.

[Zephera]

Square had hoped for better character in the game's players and was disappointed. You got what you deserved. You think it's garbage? They don't need your sub.

Great attitude man. I hope you realise how silly you sound.

[Novaslayer]

When it come to these 2 8man story dungeons it doesn't bother me that i cant skip the cut scene. However i do think they should go back and work on them and maybe find a in between or maybe make it a solo run.

Given what they did with HW and SB you can tell they know how unlike and problematic these two dungeons are and the fact you have to do them just make the problem worse.

It is old content and it very easy to get it done but to cause this much of an uproar about skipping or not skipping cut scene tell me that they might want to go back and we work these two and find a better way.

I mean they just did this with the crystal tower quest so why not this as well.

[IsuzuSento]

As a programmer, this argument has always baffled me. Just how much time and resource do you think this would take? I guarantee you, they could resolve this in a single day if they really wanted to. They probably spent more time creating the systems to make the scenes unskippable than they would rethinking two insignificant dungeons.

Considering that there were already unskippable cutscenes, that's completely false. Also, as a programmer for nearly 40 years, I can also guarantee you it would take longer than a single day to "resolve this". I can see something along the line of squadrons, but they'd also probably need the squadron AI to be smarter (along with support 2 tanks) along with changes to the dungeons themselves. Just think about the last boss of CM. Livia attacks whomever uses the mortars to attack her. So, if the player does it, they're not going to be able to do it a second time with that mortar since she'll kill it if they stand by it.

Just changing squadrons so it supports two tanks would be more than a day. Think about situations like the two colossi before Livia. You'd want one tank to pick up one and the other to pick up the other. How do you do that from a UI perspective? Similarly, what about picking up adds on other bosses? With players you have people who have a lot of gear so they can zerg it down without worry about that too much.

They're also not "insignificant dungeons". They're the climax of the ARR 2.0 story.

[Ceallach]

Great attitude man. I hope you realise how silly you sound.

It's silly to punish selfishness? Okay. I guess it's also silly to condemn the RMT people? Sure, only one of these is against the ToS, but the other is infinitely more important. Please relearn how to be human.

[Zephera]

Please relearn how to be human.

We're talking about a videogame. You need to rethink your priorities.

[Berethos]

Most of us don't. \o/

And some of us do.

Imagine that!

Kind of amazing though that only one group is really complaining about it, and it's not the ones that are choosing to do it (and I'm including Mentor Roulette in that category - by signing up for that you've chosen to help others, it's not a program meant solely for your benefit, so possibly landing in the MSQ Roulette options is part of the package - if you can't handle that, don't be a mentor).

I mean really, isn't that where most of these complaints have been coming from? "Mentors" (and I use that word loosely in this case) getting pulled into it and not being able to farm their fancy horse as fast as they'd like?

[Zephera]

Kind of amazing though that only one group is really complaining about it, and it's not the ones that are choosing to do it

It's not that amazing, why would someone do something they believe has become a waste of time?