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    LineageRazor's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    I think the key word is allows. When properly developed, the Echo allows one to transcend death. When the Sahagin elder tried to make use of this faculty, the act was very deliberate, and self-guided. Ditto the Warriors of Darkness. You can see and feel what's going on as the power revs up; Minfilia can sense it being invoked just by being nearby.

    This doesn't mean if you have the Echo and die you just don't die. As you say, we've seen plenty of Echo users die and just ... well, die. That makes it all the more weird to me that Zenos died and just didn't. He didn't want to live, he didn't try to live, he didn't rev up the Echo, we didn't feel anything powerful and Echo-ey happening near by. He just woke up in another body like, "What in the seventh hell?"

    I'm hoping that gets addressed, lol.
    Well, something to bear in mind is the fact that Fordola exists as an example of the Resonance activating involuntarily and against the wishes of its bearer. Zeno's situation could be similar. He may have wanted to die, but his Resonance fired off anyway, just as Fordola would really love to stop experiencing the tormented memories of the people she oppressed, but nope. This could be a key difference between the Resonance and the Echo - the former is much more difficult to control. (On the other hand, just about every single time the WoL has experienced an Echo vision, it has not been premeditated. It just sorta happens. So maybe regular Echo pretty much does what it wants, as well, but is a bit more polite about it? XD)
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    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    Well, something to bear in mind is the fact that Fordola exists as an example of the Resonance activating involuntarily and against the wishes of its bearer. Zeno's situation could be similar. He may have wanted to die, but his Resonance fired off anyway, just as Fordola would really love to stop experiencing the tormented memories of the people she oppressed, but nope. This could be a key difference between the Resonance and the Echo - the former is much more difficult to control. (On the other hand, just about every single time the WoL has experienced an Echo vision, it has not been premeditated. It just sorta happens. So maybe regular Echo pretty much does what it wants, as well, but is a bit more polite about it? XD)
    Come to think of it the Echo almost got us killed in Yanxia and Alisae had to save us while we saw that flashback about Yotsuyu. Also didn't Krile only get kidnapped in 4.0 because Arenvald likewise had an echo vision at an inopportune time?

    You know, it'd be nice to have the echo and use it as an excuse if I get caught nodding off at work. "No sir I wasn't sleeping, I was just having an important vision! It wasn't my fault!"
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