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You can absolutely do raiding without any outside research. You have your tooltips. You can slowly get through it with trial and error. How do you think people that get World Firsts manage? There are no guides for new content, and yet they manage to clear it. So that argument doesn't work at all.

Also, OP has already said several times they are not blaming SE. They are trying to bring awareness and share their thoughts as the GM suggested.

I said NOT on day 1 tho. You missed that part. You also missed the part where I said go into a raid talking like you have over 1000 days played NEVER looking at guides and whatnot. You would not be accepted. And EVERYONE i nthat group is going to tell you to read a guide etc etc. Again want proof.. - tales of a dutyfinder - My point being is pointing at SE for a user error is messed up and is the sole reason we can never have anything with teeth cause everyone cries like a baby cause - the game didn't hold my hand- When it shouldn't. You should know enough about games that - sonic doesn't play like mario or crash.- Why? Cause just because one mmo didn't kill your house with a timer does NOT mean they ALL follow the same rules. If you can't find it ingame, ask someone , if they don't know - which EVERYONE knew here- then google it. There was NO excuse for him to NOT know about any of those timers. NOT when people blew up about it like a year ago, and even more before that. Housing has been a HUGE topic in this game since I've been here for what... 2 years and a half years. EVERYONE was talking about it. If you have enough sense to come to the freaking fourms then what is your excuse for not knowing? The info is THERE. Look for it.

No but he pointed his finger at SE which ofcourse people will bandwagon and blame SE when this entire thing is becuase of HIS user error. The onkly point I was and have been making this entire time was if he just had enough sense to google. He'll have his stuff, he'll have everything. Just because you're not told to go outside the game to look things up doesn't mean you SHOULDN'T. Will won't hear anyone say this about anything else in the game.. so why treat this one different... you don't. So if you choose to NOT go outside and learn then what happens to you is your fault cause the info is def out there. SE doesn't need to baby us all the time.

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I said NOT on day 1 tho. You missed that part. You also missed the part where I said go into a raid talking like you have over 1000 days played NEVER looking at guides and whatnot. You would not be accepted. And EVERYONE i nthat group is going to tell you to read a guide etc etc. Again want proof.. - tales of a dutyfinder - My point being is pointing at SE for a user error is messed up and is the sole reason we can never have anything with teeth cause everyone cries like a baby cause - the game didn't hold my hand- When it shouldn't. You should know enough about games that - sonic doesn't play like mario or crash.- Why? Cause just because one mmo didn't kill your house with a timer does NOT mean they ALL follow the same rules. If you can't find it ingame, ask someone , if they don't know - which EVERYONE knew here- then google it. There was NO excuse for him to NOT know about any of those timers. NOT when people blew up about it like a year ago, and even more before that. Housing has been a HUGE topic in this game since I've been here for what... 2 years and a half years. EVERYONE was talking about it. If you have enough sense to come to the freaking fourms then what is your excuse for not knowing? The info is THERE. Look for it.

No but he pointed his finger at SE which ofcourse people will bandwagon and blame SE when this entire thing is becuase of HIS user error. The onkly point I was and have been making this entire time was if he just had enough sense to google. He'll have his stuff, he'll have everything. Just because you're not told to go outside the game to look things up doesn't mean you SHOULDN'T. Will won't hear anyone say this about anything else in the game.. so why treat this one different... you don't. So if you choose to NOT go outside and learn then what happens to you is your fault cause the info is def out there. SE doesn't need to baby us all the time.

World first clears are a totally valid point and work against your argument of requiring outside knowledge. But even for us plebs who follow at a later date, a particular group can set whatever requirements they wish. Some like to go into fights blind, some require you to watch a video. The point is though, none of it is required by the game itself. These requirements to look up a fight are from players who want to have an easier time of a fight.

Anyway, we're obviously never going to see eye to eye on this. You want to blame the players for missing something that is not obvious in-game, I am giving them the benefit of the doubt they had no knowledge of the situation. Regardless of where the fault lies in this particular situation, even you have agreed that SE could improve upon it. That should be the takeaway of this thread. How can SE improve their shoddy housing demolition notification system?

No one here is crying like a baby over things. I'd say that plenty of valid points and suggestions have been brought up, but it's continually getting buried by those who have some odd refusal to move on from blaming OP.