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  1. #21
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    I don't know where you got the idea that the Midgardsormr we fought in Alphascape was from FF4. Half because I don't recall Midgardsormr being in 4 at all, and half because the Midgardsormr we fight is explicitly a simulation of 14's Midgardsormr, but in his youthful prime.
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    I guess they could have made the first two bosses FF7 related, but I don't think shoe-horning things into the game makes sense either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosenstrauch View Post
    I don't know where you got the idea that the Midgardsormr we fought in Alphascape was from FF4. Half because I don't recall Midgardsormr being in 4 at all, and half because the Midgardsormr we fight is explicitly a simulation of 14's Midgardsormr, but in his youthful prime.
    Middy's introduction was in 6.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quinaeats View Post
    INot even asking for Sephiroth and Jenova here.. Just something like Emerald, Ruby, Diamond, and then Omega weapon.
    I feel like the Weapons would be something we'd see as the story progresses towards Empire territory, whether they would be Trials or Raids. After the Empire's history with Ultima Weapon, I really wouldn't put it past them that they'd try to pursue other similar projects further, going to Garlemald I'm expecting to see more technological marvels.
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    Did you even pay attention to the story? Not going into specifics but it's basically a tournament arc. In our first fight we were up against Deltascape, semi finals were Sigmascape, and the final was against Chaos.

    Canonically there would have been a "FF7-scape" somewhere, but it lost to either Sigma or Chaos, thus we wouldn't have fought it. That's how tournaments work. Instead of obsessively looking for patterns everywhere people need to just use their eyes and read. Lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quinaeats View Post
    It feels wrong. Why go do the former omega raids in numerical order (Delta was bosses from V, Sigma was bosses from VI), and then there is Alpha with the Final Fantasy I final boss, Midgardsormr from FFIV (even though XIV has its own Midgardsormr..), Omega from FFV, and finally some random humanoid named Omega-M.

    Honestly they could have done something with VII. Not even asking for Sephiroth and Jenova here.. Just something like Emerald, Ruby, Diamond, and then Omega weapon.

    Getting sick of SE withholding VII content just because they reserve it for when they are looking to hype something.
    Nobody is withholding anything. If you actually followed the story, it would make perfect sense why the bosses were chosen. Basically, Alphascape is called Alphascape because WE are team alpha (1), Omega called us that repeatedly throughout the tiers. The previous two tiers had us facing team delta (4) and team sigma (18) respectively. The final challenge of the tournament was fought in O9, with the rest of the fights being story purpose. Spoilers below:

    Midgardsormr: This one is easy, its not a random fight, it is a fight heavily rooted in Omegas story, and the history of XIV itself. Sigmascape forshadowed this history quite a lot.

    Omega: Did you really think we weren't going to fight Omega in the Omega raid?

    Omega M/F: See above, the fact that he got two fights is a good way to show off his power IMO.


    I would imagine that the characters from VII, and every other final fantasy were present in the background, however I believe that we were not chosen to face them due to Omegas calculations on power, and the structure of the "tournament". Sephiroth is cool, but Omega knew that Exdeath, Kefka, and Chaos were clearly stronger, so they he was eliminated from the testing.
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    Did anyone really expect ff7? We will get a cross over/promo event when we get closer to its release.

    The fights were fun and a lot more challenging and i love them but i feel like the omega m and f could've been pulled of better, the fight was really nice tho when they LB all over the place and panic sets in ... tho that will only last a couple kills.

    Best raid set of SB
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quinaeats View Post
    It feels wrong. Why go do the former omega raids in numerical order (Delta was bosses from V, Sigma was bosses from VI), and then there is Alpha with the Final Fantasy I final boss, Midgardsormr from FFIV (even though XIV has its own Midgardsormr..), Omega from FFV, and finally some random humanoid named Omega-M.

    Honestly they could have done something with VII. Not even asking for Sephiroth and Jenova here.. Just something like Emerald, Ruby, Diamond, and then Omega weapon.

    Getting sick of SE withholding VII content just because they reserve it for when they are looking to hype something.
    I haven't done any of the Alphascape raids, but I am inclined to agree. This is essentially trolling by SE, and somewhat mean-spirited trolling at that, given the status FF7 has in the broader franchise.

    Honestly though, the entire set of Stormblood raids have felt out of place for me. The initial exposure was easily the worst: we went from an epic battle of the titans to a goofy-looking chocobo flying through the air toward us. It wasn't a good look, to me at least, and no amount of storytelling chicanery has fixed it.
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    Chaos is from FF1, yeah.
    The Midgardsormr we fight in Alpha is not from FFIV. It's the same FFXIV Midgardsormr but from the past (remember that Midgardsormr came to help Hydaelyn from a different world. Omega and Mid fought in the past.)
    This Omega is from FFXIV, technically.

    I rather this than a generic FFVII style tiers. Omega story is interesting and awesome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirsten_Rev View Post
    This is essentially trolling by SE, and somewhat mean-spirited trolling at that, given the status FF7 has in the broader franchise.
    1. SE never said anything about FF7 or what this tier would be in the slightest until the trailer for chaos.
    2. FF7 would not make sense as the finale for the tier because it holds no higher meaning than any of the other games (5 + 6).
    3. The story leads us to believe the above, we would just be fighting FF7 enemies as a combatant in omegas tournament, rather than resolving the plot neatly and concisely.
    4. Do you really believe Omega would not be the final boss of the Omega raid? Hell, I'm surprised we didn't get Omega prime with how predictable SE is.
    5. If it was just sephiroth as O9 instead of Chaos, I have to ask... why? Chaos is arguably far more powerful being born as a god rather than becoming one, and his place as the final boss as FF1 is more poetic as the final tournament boss.
    6. The only one who is trolling is your assumptions and your emotions on this matter, complain to your inner monologue on how it has cheated you, not to SE.
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