Pushed to quit after 1,860 days subbed

[Sigma-Astra]

Okay but when I was on about sprouts getting pop-ups about demolition you showed no sign of even thinking that maybe the tutorial on how demolition works is grossly mistimed. Instead you kept harping on about how housing in this game is like a mortgage in real life and people should be more responsible.

Because your example with the sprouts didn't really tie into what I was actually arguing for and so, there was absolutely no point to derail the thread about lvl 15 sprouts. It wasn't relevant towards what I believed we were arguing about. If the OP was a sprout then maybe I'd have responded towards the point, but it wasn't a point that had any relevance towards the OP exactly. And yes, people who decide to venture into housing should be more responsible. If they were, we might not have problems like this one right now.

I argue that people can't be more responsible about something if they're not even aware that there is any responsibility is attached. Heck a mortgage is paying for a house bit by bit. In this game you pay all the money at once. Of course people tend to assume once they have the house it belongs to them forever. That's how it works in real life if you pay the entire price of the house.

And I'd argue that refusing to think of even asking or wanting to learn more about XIV housing doesn't negate the partial responsibility a player has for making sure that their own house doesn't get auto-demolition, lol.

And you prove my exact point right here. I said people tend to learn how content works as they experience it. Going to a website isn't experiencing the content as you play it. Most players like to learn by doing. It's why they play games - to do things. Being expected to go to a source outside of the game to find out about something you can lose in the game is unacceptable. Especially for console users as they often avoid browsing the internet on the ps4 because it's slow as hell.

The console users is a poor excuse since you can use a laptop or someone's computer to look up information and if you don't have one? Ask people. If we all had to use outside tools to look up more information regarding housing, why are we suddenly absolving one person from doing it? I mean, I play on PS4 and keep my laptop nearby or at least my phone.

Well then it seems you are incapable of putting yourself in the place of others and assume because you act a certain way and it works, then everyone else who doesn't is being irresponsible. Heaven forbid this may even be a person's first mmo and wouldn't have a remote idea as to the advantages of reading about content in websites.

How so? If I lost my XIV house, I wouldn't be making a forum post and saying that I'm quitting the game over it because it would be my own fault. Plain and simple, really, lol. There you go again with the hyperbole and strawman of things I've never said, you can stop now if that's your only way to argue, thanks.

No I do not think and never have said that OP was entirely innocent. I even said in my first post that it's OP's fault if he skipped through the tutorial. But that does not mean I'm going to absolve SE of all blame.

The information about demolition timers is given at an extremely poorly timed moment which dooms it to be forgotten, and additional information is hidden in a npc and in a timer window that doesn't even display the timer for most of its duration. SE have even made it difficult to find out about the timer by accident. Surely you can at least see how misleading this is.

Is it not stressed enough? Sure. Is it this end of the world problem? No, I don't really think that it quite is when most wards are full and have been full for quite a while. If this were such a huge issue, don't you think most wards would be empty all of the time because people don't know?