Let's talk about Hunts - a detailed rundown of their assumed mechanics

[dmcincubus]

Then what is the point in all the whining the last page or two of this thread if people aren’t being jerks/trolls when given a tool that could be abused?

The people trying to keep a lid on the “tricks of the trade” when it comes to hunts draw far more scrutiny. It’s hunts, ffs. We’re all on the same team...but sadly there will be folks that go “lol eff you all” and bot or abuse sniffers by pretending to afk in a zone with potential S rank spawn while they watch Netflix or whatever. Better to encourage reasonable use of sniffer ish tools. Can’t think of any legit reason to not hunts of course (or anything else in game for that matter, but that’s a whole other can of worms). Those sort of folks are a minority in my experience on 2 servers.

I understand the argument is ‘cuz abuse of the system’, but I don’t think it has much at all to do with trolls, snipers or rogues taking this info and abusing it. ACT triggers are far more dangerous yet widely accepted amongst the hunt community because it helps immensely with time and spawn rates.

I think it’s more to do with prideful hunters who would rather keep the info to themselves for their benefit than sharing the info for the betterment of the hunting community, honestly.

[alimdia]

While true at the moment, SE would be best advised to just rebuild their rendering priority mechanism. People in your party and all monsters on a given map - from lowly trash all the way up to S ranks - should always be given rendering priority over other players. An adjustment here would make a lot of their large-group content a lot more playable.

They are working on party display priority and already implemented it in Eureka, but I wouldn't expect them to rebuild the whole thing, that's probably low in their priority list.

I understand the argument is ‘cuz abuse of the system’, but I don’t think it has much at all to do with trolls, snipers or rogues taking this info and abusing it. ACT triggers are far more dangerous yet widely accepted amongst the hunt community because it helps immensely with time and spawn rates.

I think it’s more to do with prideful hunters who would rather keep the info to themselves for their benefit than sharing the info for the betterment of the hunting community, honestly.

I think the successor of Guildwork (that should not be named) is more of a problem than triggers, because it broadcasts the coordinates right away and causes other S ranks spawners to miss it. If a hunt troll used triggers he still has to be there when it spawns, has to search it and has to call / wait for his buddies before he can troll, with the other program all trolls get the coordinates right away.

[NoboruSouma]

Then what is the point in all the whining the last page or two of this thread if people aren’t being jerks/trolls when given a tool that could be abused?

The people trying to keep a lid on the “tricks of the trade” when it comes to hunts draw far more scrutiny. It’s hunts, ffs. We’re all on the same team...but sadly there will be folks that go “lol eff you all” and bot or abuse sniffers by pretending to afk in a zone with potential S rank spawn while they watch Netflix or whatever. Better to encourage reasonable use of sniffer ish tools. Can’t think of any legit reason to not hunts of course (or anything else in game for that matter, but that’s a whole other can of worms). Those sort of folks are a minority in my experience on 2 servers.

I guess I brought up good reasons why this thing is kinda blowing up and why it shouldn't have, yet you call it "whining" when it's just (harsh) criticism that some things don't have to be brought to everyone.

I understand the argument is ‘cuz abuse of the system’, but I don’t think it has much at all to do with trolls, snipers or rogues taking this info and abusing it. ACT triggers are far more dangerous yet widely accepted amongst the hunt community because it helps immensely with time and spawn rates.

Trigger shout-outs have nothing to do with time or spawn rates. None at all. Even with ACT we have SB S Ranks that go near the 60 hour line. Or did I get you wrong? Your argument doesn't make sense in the way that those triggers work.

I think it’s more to do with prideful hunters who would rather keep the info to themselves for their benefit than sharing the info for the betterment of the hunting community, honestly.

And you can have that opinion, that's totally fine. But I have to disagree with it because you are not acknowledging that there are Hunt Communities on other servers dealing with a lot of toxicity and that this just puts fuel in the fire.
Now attacking some spawners doesn't work really.

[dmcincubus]

My post disappeared, along with several other posts. Now i understand the salt when people talk about the moderating of these forums.

Alas, happy hunting, kill s ranks, be kind, have a great day.

[KageTokage]

I assume they don't want people talking about third-party programs, mostly, though it would be nice if they'd actually make a statement or something to let people know why posts are being purged.

It's kind of hard for them not to come up in discussions when they're regularly affecting the game for the worse, though.

[Froggy_Ferrinas]

Just to come back to Udumbara(Dumbo)

I can officially confirm that Saprias have nothing to do with him at all. The spawn condition is 75-100/75-100(Most likely 100 both) Leshy/Diakka. I had the chance to test it several times now.

2 times of those with him being a total douche and not being open until the very end of his window(48h//52 on ary)

That "Duh bro 50/50/50 works perfectly fine everytime for us" is a staright up lie. Maybe you/they realized later on that you never actually had a pop on saprias.

i'm a very happy dead inside guy now.

[KageTokage]

Now we just need to figure out the exact kill count behind Okina and I think things will be sorted out completely for SB.

...Though that's kind of difficult considering that its respawn timer can end before it's actually able to spawn.

[Froggy_Ferrinas]

Well, now i am the one to go "Duh bro we do XX perfectly fine all the time". BUT we really are just fine with 100/100 Snails/Naked snails. That's a huge count but works every time for us thus taking ages. Feel free to confirm/decline if you have other experiences.

I just hope 5.0 will bring back some gathering or whole new mechanics. Having 1 that needs killing is intense, but having 2 AND such high required kill counts is just meh X-X PLUS Okina needing the right time too PLUS there are only 9/9(3/2 in northern cave, 2/3 in SW cave, 3/3 in SE cave) you can kill in a "wave"(talking the 1-2 minute wait for respawn) if you have 3 people. I mean we can only bear so much... How often did it happen that Dumbo went to near max? Way too often on our server at least. How often was your Okina 35h+ and didn't spawn so you had to wait few days to finally get it. We only have very few people that even try Leu/Dumbo/Okina because they are the biggest letdown of them all if they don't pop.

I know i sound whiny and deep in our hearts all we hardcore-hunters are fine with it. But you all know those phases where you just wanna endlessly rant about the whole system xD

[alimdia]

Has anyone experienced a delayed spawn with Orghana? We had the spawn point located, flew there after the fate (me + someone else), it didn't spawn, we went afk by the spawn point, 5 mins after fate completion it spawned on top of us. This is the second time that happened, although we've also had instant spawns. Both time it happened it was at the spawn point by Yanxia's zone line.

[Ramesses]

Almost can't believe this thread is still on-going four years after Vandes started it.

The original mechanics of the hunts when they initially got released remain one of my favourite elements that the Devs added to this game.