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  1. #17141
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    Driskus's Avatar
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    Driskus Blackstone
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    Coeurl
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Berteaux_Braumegain View Post
    I really wonder how pure Healers manage to clear their solo duties sometimes.
    Sometimes I wonder the same thing. Just had a pure healer WHM in Gubal Normal that decided it was a good idea to keep Regen & Medica II on all four party members the entire run. The only DPS he put out was from Assize. No Stone, Aero, nothing.

    I was tanking on WAR. He pulled trash like it was nobody's business, before I could even hit them with Overpower/Steel Cyclone. Mobs darted right for his face the instant I got in range to aggro them. Not even opening with three Berserk'd Fell Cleaves after a Storm's Eye combo could keep the final boss off him. Had to use several Butcher's Block combos in Defiance instead just to get a big enough lead.
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  2. #17142
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    Miniut's Avatar
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    Girdania
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    Minuit Skyfall
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    Sargatanas
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Just got outta 50/60 roulette - Hullbreaker Isle (Hard) qued as DRK. We have the new person bonus, so at the first boss while I stopped to attempt to explain/type out the banana mechanic, without a word our SAM runs in (literally 5 seconds of being inside the line) and pulls. Annoyed, figuring this was a classic "dps-wants-to-tank" person, I proceeded to drop Grit and allowed the SAM to tank the boss the rest of the fight, and our new sprout healer amazingly keeps them alive throughout the entire first encounter. We clear, no deaths. The SAM then reveals AFTERWARDS that the intentional pull was an accident; they thought they were on their tank (suddenly), but the rest of us had no idea during the fight, I was simply ready to take aggro if/when they died. As I'm tanking the trash up to the 2nd boss, the tank-dps went on to humbly brag about their ability to hold threat [versus my inability to take it].

    Long story shorter, we had a dispute - the SAM accused me of being an ass for not taking aggro back and after they apologized. I pointed out the revelation came after we cleared, in the moment it seemed like an intentional, and that I'll tank as long as they let me pull the monsters.

    I may be an ass, but I'd like to think I'm a fair one.
    (6)

  3. #17143
    Player MoroMurasaki's Avatar
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    Moro Murasaki
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    Zalera
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Driskus View Post
    Sometimes I wonder the same thing. Just had a pure healer WHM in Gubal Normal that decided it was a good idea to keep Regen & Medica II on all four party members the entire run. The only DPS he put out was from Assize. No Stone, Aero, nothing.

    I was tanking on WAR. He pulled trash like it was nobody's business, before I could even hit them with Overpower/Steel Cyclone. Mobs darted right for his face the instant I got in range to aggro them. Not even opening with three Berserk'd Fell Cleaves after a Storm's Eye combo could keep the final boss off him. Had to use several Butcher's Block combos in Defiance instead just to get a big enough lead.
    I mean it seems like he wants to tank, it would be rude to deny him his request... >.>
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  4. #17144
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    Hiss13's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Itsuwa Amakusa
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Ran O2 normal for the first time yesterday. Greetings happen while the intro cutscene for the raid is running and then the phone rings so I have to pick up. I leave a note saying "Hold. brbr" (Yes, I mispelled it in my rush) and then run off to pick up the phone since it's in another room. Phone call runs about thirty seconds and I come back and find myself dead on the ground and the raid just raging on. Needless to say, I got rezzed and died a lot both due to running it blind and due to general confusion (and I was playing my main job, WHM). We did clear it on the first try but it felt unearned.

    It was a riot.

    Some excerpts conversation between my co-healer (a friend of mine) and I after the raid ended.
    [12:00](Co-healer) O2 is a fun one, eh?
    [12:00](Itsuwa Amakusa) WHAT JUST HAPPENED
    [12:00](Co-healer) Hahahaha!
    [12:00](Itsuwa Amakusa) I go for 30 seconds because I'm called away thanks to the phone ringing
    [12:00](Itsuwa Amakusa) And I come back and find that I'm dead on the ground
    [12:00](Co-healer) You fought a tentacle monster and got horribly raped.
    [12:01](Co-healer) Because you didn't float away from it
    [12:01](Itsuwa Amakusa) How many times did I die there?!
    [12:01](Itsuwa Amakusa) I counted at least 7
    [12:01](Co-healer) Pfft. Ask Catastrophe.
    [12:02](Co-healer) Next is even more fun.
    [12:02](Itsuwa Amakusa) I feel like part of that all was the lingering confusion
    [12:02](Co-healer) But in review, any mechanics you still don't get?
    [12:02](Co-healer) Lingering confusion?
    [12:02](Itsuwa Amakusa) From coming back after being afk for 30 seconds and finding myself DEAD
    [12:03](Co-healer) Pfft.

    [12:03](Itsuwa Amakusa) The double altitude one and the tentacle one
    [12:04](Itsuwa Amakusa) We're doing that one again
    [12:04](Co-healer) Double altitude, there's supposed to be a safe spot off to the side.
    [12:04](Itsuwa Amakusa) The A marker?
    [12:04](Co-healer) Tentacles... Don't actually recall.
    [12:04](Co-healer) Don't, um, stand on them though.
    [12:04](Co-healer) That is bad, that gets you tentacle raped
    [12:04](Co-healer) ...come to think
    [12:04](Co-healer) you did say you wanted to become your avatar.
    [12:04](Co-healer) Hm.
    [12:05](Co-healer) *judges*

    [12:07](Itsuwa Amakusa) I feel violated. And it had nothing to do with the tentacles
    [12:07](Itsuwa Amakusa) Still salty
    [12:07](Co-healer) Pfffffffft
    (2)
    Last edited by Hiss13; 09-12-2018 at 10:49 PM.

  5. #17145
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    Moonfish's Avatar
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    Autumn Stardust
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    Malboro
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by LauraAdalena View Post
    I got a Black Mage in ARF once. I was healing, one person I came with was DPSing and Tank was pug. All was fine, but things were dying so slowly it was like the Black Mage was doing nothing. His gear was fine except for one tiny detail... he had an ilvl 100 relic. Me and person I queued with asked why he had it on and he told us it was because he was light farming. We asked him if he’d switch weapons, he refused because he needed the dungeon for light. “It isn’t hat big a deal, it’s ARF.”

    I get that it’s a dungeon, but please don’t ever do this.
    Back when SB launched I was running castrum abania with a PLD using the anima sword and board. I asked if he had an up to date weapon and he said he was farming light. Smh. He equipped something appropriate after I told him he wouldn’t get any light - but now that I think about it, idk if SB dungeons give light or not. /shrug
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  6. #17146
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    Ameela's Avatar
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    Ameela Trussa
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by LauraAdalena View Post
    “It isn’t hat big a deal, it’s ARF.”.
    You mean the dungeon that's already one of the longest in the game even with an appropriately geared party?
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  7. #17147
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    Frizze's Avatar
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    Frizze Steeleblaze
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    Lamia
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by LauraAdalena View Post
    I got a Black Mage in ARF once. I was healing, one person I came with was DPSing and Tank was pug. All was fine, but things were dying so slowly it was like the Black Mage was doing nothing. His gear was fine except for one tiny detail... he had an ilvl 100 relic. Me and person I queued with asked why he had it on and he told us it was because he was light farming. We asked him if he’d switch weapons, he refused because he needed the dungeon for light. “It isn’t hat big a deal, it’s ARF.”

    I get that it’s a dungeon, but please don’t ever do this.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moonfish View Post
    Back when SB launched I was running castrum abania with a PLD using the anima sword and board. I asked if he had an up to date weapon and he said he was farming light. Smh. He equipped something appropriate after I told him he wouldn’t get any light - but now that I think about it, idk if SB dungeons give light or not. /shrug
    Ive always heard that you only get lights from doing content the same tier as the weapon youre working on(lvl 50 dungeons/raids for relic, lvl 60 for anima, etc). Even if its not true, its a "good" lie to tell because people would at least have a semi-appropriate weapon on. But do we know for sure one way or the other if this is the case?
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  8. #17148
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    HyoMinPark's Avatar
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    Hyomin Park
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    Cactuar
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Frizze View Post
    Ive always heard that you only get lights from doing content the same tier as the weapon youre working on(lvl 50 dungeons/raids for relic, lvl 60 for anima, etc). Even if its not true, its a "good" lie to tell because people would at least have a semi-appropriate weapon on. But do we know for sure one way or the other if this is the case?
    Zodiac weapons you get light from level 50 content (maybe below as well, not sure), and Anima they changed it with SB that level 50 dungeons give you light (Brayflox HM is excellent for solo-grinding out the light step because runs take 5-7 mins tops; only if you can’t get a group for A9S though, which is the fastest way), as well as level 51-60 content. SB content does not give light for either.
    (0)
    Sage | Astrologian | Dancer

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    마지막 밤 기억하길

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  9. #17149
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    BillyKaplan's Avatar
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    Lho Polaali
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    Moogle
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    Conjurer Lv 23
    What a godawful run of ARF. Queued as DRK for 50/60 because I'm almost to my Panther, and I see a BLM and an RDM with a level 70 healer. Ok, time to pull the place.
    First pull I notice things aren't dying too quickly, so I start paying attention. Fairly certain RDM isn't using Scatter, but it's harder to tell with them because of Dualcast and I didn't want to open up the battle log because, hey, I'm tanking and that's a lot of ground aoes.
    And then I start paying attention to the BLM. I have maybe 8 enemies on me and they're using Fire. Not even Fire IV mind, that would've been a bit better. No, Fire. Fire and Blizz and Blizz IV for some unimaginable reason. I ask them to AoE, at least use Five IV. They respond in a way that deserved that kick, but the RDM is with them, so it doesn't go through.
    Well then, you kids have fun. I bailed. That's 30 minutes I can spawn S ranks and fish in instead of carrying these two pieces of dead weight.
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  10. #17150
    Player MoroMurasaki's Avatar
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    Moro Murasaki
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    Zalera
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    I'm getting tired of Diversion and Lucid not being enough.

    It's gotten bad enough that I'm back to doing my expert roulettes on WHM because I'm sick and tired of random tanks assuming I have an enmity cooldown for every set of mobs on RDM. I feel like I'm stuck between inconveniencing the healer by yanking off the tank or purposely gimping my own damage to not pull. It's so much worse with single pull tanks too.

    In an effort to all play RDM outside of raiding I did normal raid roulette on it since it gives crap exp anyways. Got Guardian. Proceeded to tank every add that I didn't have diversion up for for at least most of its life. The Biblio one hits less hard than Savage but still almost pancaked me.

    Does anyone else feel like their tanks have just gotten lazy with the enmity generation? I'm not saying they should be standing their spamming their enmity combos but at a certain point if I've exhausted everything available on my end all that's left is for them to get more threat.
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