Are 2.0 Graphics going to be better?

[syntaxlies]

The graphics in 2.0 will be of similar quality as today's. However, higher spec machine will be able to display much more at the same time. The graphics in FFXIV are of great quality and will remain considered acceptable (at the very least) for many years to come. I believe that is why they wanted to put such high quality graphic even though it required players to purchase high end computers, to remain competitive graphic-wise in the coming years.
However, it is a MMO, comparing the graphic of a MMO with a single player game should not be done.

SE has a habit of there graphics being outdated by release so it ws important to them to have graphics that would last this time. they really banked the whole game on graphics which is what let to its demise, ironic. Two examples of outdated graphics were the FF movie which they lost a ton of money on and FF11(i know some people will be like they were the best ever) but even SE said they were outdated compared to other stuff of the time.(ps2 held it back)

[Jennestia]

SE has a habit of there graphics being outdated by release

? Which Square are we talking about? Seiken Densetsu (especially 3), Chrono Trigger and all of the Final Fantasies certainly weren't using outdated graphics at their release.

Two examples of outdated graphics were the FF movie which they lost a ton of money on and FF11

Spirit's Within didn't lose money due to "bad graphics" (btw, it wasn't outdated graphics at the time either), nor was FFXI, a 2001 developed game. I think you just really have something against SE in general lol.

[KiriA500]

SE has a habit of there graphics being outdated by release so it ws important to them to have graphics that would last this time. they really banked the whole game on graphics which is what let to its demise, ironic. Two examples of outdated graphics were the FF movie which they lost a ton of money on and FF11(i know some people will be like they were the best ever) but even SE said they were outdated compared to other stuff of the time.(ps2 held it back)

Actually...

Final Fantasy: Spirits Within didn't bomb because it looked bad, it bombed because a) it wasn't Final Fantasy VII related, and b) it was boring as hell.

Square has always been known for their visuals. While yes, the PS2 did hold back Final Fantasy XI, it was the first platform the game was released on (in Japan), a whopping 4 years prior to the PlayStation 3/Xbox 360. They were pushing for quality graphics at the time, they just aged, which all games do.

[syntaxlies]

Actually...

Final Fantasy: Spirits Within didn't bomb because it looked bad, it bombed because a) it wasn't Final Fantasy VII related, and b) it was boring as hell.

Square has always been known for their visuals. While yes, the PS2 did hold back Final Fantasy XI, it was the first platform the game was released on (in Japan), a whopping 4 years prior to the PlayStation 3/Xbox 360. They were pushing for quality graphics at the time, they just aged, which all games do.

i didn't say all there games were outdated but they had admitted to those 2 mistakes and didn't wanna make them again. its not speculation its fact.

[Vaymathias]

Actually...

Final Fantasy: Spirits Within didn't bomb because it looked bad, it bombed because a) it wasn't Final Fantasy VII related, and b) it was boring as hell.

Square has always been known for their visuals. While yes, the PS2 did hold back Final Fantasy XI, it was the first platform the game was released on (in Japan), a whopping 4 years prior to the PlayStation 3/Xbox 360. They were pushing for quality graphics at the time, they just aged, which all games do.

Square was known for their story telling LONG before they were known for their visuals. The early games, most people couldn't tell them apart from other games of a similar structure. It wasn't until VII that they became known for their visuals.

Now about the game being able to run on lower end systems for 2.0. From what I'm told from a friend, and also have read in many places around the net, FFXIV is coded poorly (or mediocre, it's all relative), and that 2.0 is supposed to be highly optimized, only time will tell......or Yoshida might tell, but you should never trust a salesman, you might be buying snake oil.

I actually think the screen shot they released looks pretty cool. It's kinda like the surrealist look from 300 applied to FFXIV. I didn't like the look for 300 but I think it looks really cool for FFXIV, though hopefully it's something that you can turn on or off for people who don't like it, or incase it begins to give me a headache.

[Jennestia]

i didn't say all there games were outdated but they had admitted to those 2 mistakes and didn't wanna make them again. its not speculation its fact.

You did actually.

SE has a habit of there graphics being outdated by release

That's saying every game SE ever releases uses outdated graphics by the time they're released, which is very much untrue. Admitting mistakes doesn't mean they're admitting they release games with outdated graphics..

(XI wasn't a mistake though) As explained, Spirit's Within did poorly for reasons beyond graphics.

[syntaxlies]

You did actually.



That's saying every game SE ever releases uses outdated graphics by the time they're released, which is very much untrue. Admitting mistakes doesn't mean they're admitting they release games with outdated graphics..

(XI wasn't a mistake though) As explained, Spirit's Within did poorly for reasons beyond graphics.

less then half of the ff titles have superior graphics, spirts with bombed because there technology to produce the graphics was dated in the middle of production, and FF11 was dated at lauch.

[KiriA500]

and FF11 was dated at lauch.

[Jennestia]

less then half of the ff titles have superior graphics, spirts with bombed because there technology to produce the graphics was dated in the middle of production, and FF11 was dated at lauch.

FFXI launched at the end of 2001 (beta) and 2002, graphics in XI weren't inferior to anything at the time. Spirit's Within didn't bomb because of "low quality graphics."

None of the SNES FF Games were outdated graphically, FFVII was a weird graphical style, but FFVIII and IX weren't outdated at time either. (Especially CGI cutscenes), FFX, XII and XIII weren't outdated either.

So I'm really wondering what you define by outdated, or are you confusing the fact as years go on graphics get aged -- Because FFVIII for example didn't look inferior to anything else in 1999 on the playstation.

[syntaxlies]

FFXI launched at the end of 2001 (beta) and 2002, graphics in XI weren't inferior to anything at the time. Spirit's Within didn't bomb because of "low quality graphics."

None of the SNES FF Games were outdated graphically, FFVII was a weird graphical style, but FFVIII and IX weren't outdated at time either. (Especially CGI cutscenes), FFX, XII and XIII weren't outdated either.

So I'm really wondering what you define by outdated, or are you confusing the fact as years go on graphics get aged -- Because FFVIII for example didn't look inferior to anything else in 1999 on the playstation.

ever quest 2 graphics were far superior to 11 and they released close to each other i think 11 release was late 2003 and everquest was 2004.