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    Mocita's Avatar
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    Mocita Magicita
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    False advertising in PF should be reportable

    Everyday, I see posts in the PF for the roulettes that want to sell runs for weapons/clears, search for static jobs, or advertise for their FC even if they aren't on the same server. I feel like these should be reportable and punishable since they are falsely advertising in the wrong PF slot. If people want to PF for Roulettes, it should only be for the roulettes they are planning to run.
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    Bacent Rekkes
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    Well the recruits for FCs should honestly have their own page. The reason why recruiting on the PF is done over the data center, instead of just the world they're on, is due to people who might have multiple characters on different servers of their data center. I've seen a few people who've found an FC that way before. But otherwise I do fully agree that people should stop being able to sell runs in the PF. Just about everyone and their mother makes you have to talk to them on discord, in which they talk about how you're going to 'pay' them, even if they're on multiple servers, usually by paypal or even buying it from RMTs on phishy sites. Everyone knows what's up with those by now. If people were just selling on their own server, and you did NOT have to move to discord due to them knowingly breaking the rules, I'd honestly be ok with.... minus them being in the #1 spot when you go to check the PF. Too bad you can't report them for RMT when you have ''''no proof''''.
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    Last edited by Bacent; 09-09-2018 at 01:13 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bacent View Post
    Well the recruits for FCs should honestly have their own page.
    FCs or statics advertising for recruitment is a symptom of something missing in the game. There should be some sort of tool for advertising and searching for teams and fcs in the game. And it should be cross-realm within the data centre. A lot of people do transfer if something sounds good enough.
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    Last edited by Penthea; 09-10-2018 at 11:36 AM.

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    I used to run a daily PF recruitment that looked like this.

    "WTB items on my server, but am advertising across the data-center for no particular reason!"

    I used to get like 3-5 messages per hour long session giving me kudos for my sarcasm, lol
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    Where do you draw the line though? Someone puts up they want to do Ifrit Ex but then you find out its Shiva Ex.

    I know the point of what you're trying to get at but you worded the whole thing wrong OP
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

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    Ava Rose
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    It would just be great to have a category for Static Recruitment and FC Recruitment. But I mean, a reportable offense is pretty serious. It's just a PF listing. It's nothing that is serious enough to warrant A REPORT.

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    Static jobs is possible on different servers though, as long as they communicate properly.
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    If a static is looking for someone to raid with and the statics progress is at O7S, so they put up that in PF in the way of "Static looking for [job] to raid, progressing in O7S, raidtimes".
    Are they false advertising? They do want to play this content and they are recruiting for it - they just dont want to do it right now and more than once with the same people.

    The FC-recruitment is a bit more fishy, I agree - but I also think we need an actual system that allows people to advertise and browse FCs. Something like a marketboard just for FCs, basically. We have all those fancy tags we can use for our FCs, so why cant we have a system that displays and sorts all of them?

    In regards to the whole thing though... each time this topic comes up (specially when it comes to the whole selling-part), I wonder: Is this really hurting you? Is this really hurting anyone? Its not like the PF is unusable because of it (at least not on my datacenter) and seeing how this has been a thing since they introduced it, I dont think we need to worry about it getting worse and taking over at somepoint.
    So... why is it bothering you? There are PF-groups you're not intrested in joining, thats all - at least to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    If a static is looking for someone to raid with and the statics progress is at O7S, so they put up that in PF in the way of "Static looking for [job] to raid, progressing in O7S, raidtimes".
    I think the issue is using duty finder-roulette to advertise things that aren't roulette. Most savage/ultimate tend to advertise in savage/ultimate duties anyways. But DF roulette always puts you at the top of the screen, which is why people use it for other things. The only real objection to it is when its used for run selling. People looking for statics usually check the savage pfs anyways.

    In regards to the whole thing though... each time this topic comes up (specially when it comes to the whole selling-part), I wonder: Is this really hurting you? Is this really hurting anyone?
    people don't want any adverts for cross server run selling, because the gil limits when transferring and lack of trading in instance means its probably paid for via rmt of some kind. As for hurting...well players selling ultimate runs tarnished that in my eyes, because you wonder what else they do if they are willing to do that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiyahArp View Post
    people don't want any adverts for cross server run selling, because the gil limits when transferring and lack of trading in instance means its probably paid for via rmt of some kind. As for hurting...well players selling ultimate runs tarnished that in my eyes, because you wonder what else they do if they are willing to do that.
    I wasnt talking so much about the run-selling itself here, but about the advertisments in PF that are listed somewhat wrong.
    Is that really hurting you?
    Is it hurting you when you open the PF and see a listing under "Expert roulette" thats actually an FC looking for new members?
    Personally: Its not hurting me - its just another party I wont join for reasons. As I explained: I'm not under the impression that the majority of PF-listings turned into false advertisment (which would make the PF useless) and I also dont believe that thats whats coming for us. There will be a couple of semi-wrong* listings that you'll just skip just how you skip that Byakko-group thats looking for a tank when you want to heal.

    *semi-wrong: I'm using that because of the whole static-argument I made before. A FC thats recruiting via Expert-roulette might be very well intrested in doing that content together - even if maybe not now. A static looking for a member will eventually do the raid they put up the PF for. Technically you could even say that the sellers will do the content they put up the PF for... if you pay them. Has anyone ever tried to buy an expert roulette?
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