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    They just dont know how to design challenge content. I've always hated level/ilevel sync it makes absolutely no sense, especially in stuff like maps and current end game dungeons.

    Why work towards progression just to keep taking it away?

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    the marginally bigger total player count than any other FINAL FANTASY MMO at the same point of its lifecycle.
    Aren't there only two ff mmos? I could be horribly wrong I don't keep up with the franchise. I thought it was just 11 and 14? That's not like it's some massive accomplishment if there's only two and one was created like over 10 years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OurMom View Post
    They just dont know how to design challenge content. I've always hated level/ilevel sync it makes absolutely no sense, especially in stuff like maps and current end game dungeons.

    Why work towards progression just to keep taking it away?



    Aren't there only two ff mmos? I could be horribly wrong I don't keep up with the franchise. I thought it was just 11 and 14? That's not like it's some massive accomplishment if there's only two and one was created like over 10 years ago.
    Why do you make this point? I was replying to what I quoted.
    Also, there are 3 FINAL FANTASY MMOs.
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    Balancing a system like this would be a nightmare - how would you propose balancing a level 70 rotation in Sastasha against a tank that's a level 15 GLA or MRD with a fraction of the skills you have? Mind you, neither have full combos until level 26 and level 30 respectfully, and neither have a tank stance either. It can already be difficult enough being item level synced against a new tank in lower level dungeons with at-level gear; I got Qarn earlier on my alt's AST (full i130 Augmented Poetics) and was pulling from a baby WAR in a mixture of i30 and i35 gear with just Malefics.

    Even if you nerfed the damage of the level 70 player by 90%, at that point, why bother? I'd rather have my skeletal level 15 toolkit scaled to Sastasha's level than my full 70 kit scaled down that low. It would just feel bad at that point.

    I don't think this is something the game needs currently. If you want to practice a level 70 rotation, there is plenty of level 70 content you can queue directly in to and practice, from dungeons to raids.

    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroth View Post
    Why do you make this point? I was replying to what I quoted.
    Also, there are 3 FINAL FANTASY MMOs.
    Uhm, last I checked, there were only 2: Final Fantasy XI and Final Fantasy XIV. Unless you're counting 1.0 and ARR separately, I'm unaware of a third FF MMO currently on the market.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    Balancing a system like this would be a nightmare - how would you propose balancing a level 70 rotation in Sastasha against a tank that's a level 15 GLA or MRD with a fraction of the skills you have? Mind you, neither have full combos until level 26 and level 30 respectfully, and neither have a tank stance either. It can already be difficult enough being item level synced against a new tank in lower level dungeons with at-level gear; I got Qarn earlier on my alt's AST (full i130 Augmented Poetics) and was pulling from a baby WAR in a mixture of i30 and i35 gear with just Malefics.

    Even if you nerfed the damage of the level 70 player by 90%, at that point, why bother? I'd rather have my skeletal level 15 toolkit scaled to Sastasha's level than my full 70 kit scaled down that low. It would just feel bad at that point.

    I don't think this is something the game needs currently. If you want to practice a level 70 rotation, there is plenty of level 70 content you can queue directly in to and practice, from dungeons to raids.



    Uhm, last I checked, there were only 2: Final Fantasy XI and Final Fantasy XIV. Unless you're counting 1.0 and ARR separately, I'm unaware of a third FF MMO currently on the market.
    FINAL FANTASY Type-0 Online
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroth View Post
    FINAL FANTASY Type-0 Online
    Smartphone online games are not really in the same basket as PC/console ones though. Otherwise we could just call FF Brave Exvius, Record Keeper etc or even Pokémon Go an MMO...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurando View Post
    Smartphone online games are not really in the same basket as PC/console ones though. Otherwise we could just call FF Brave Exvius, Record Keeper etc or even Pokémon Go an MMO...
    It's a PC game.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroth View Post
    It's a PC game.....

    It was made purely for the smartphone market but did have a PC port. It still is not in the same basket as FFXI or XIV, seriously. And as some mentioned, it's not completely developed by SE so stop putting it under the same umbrella. SE currently has 2 main stream MMOs, FFXIV and Dragon Quest, (as well as FFXI which is still going). But again if you want to include Type 0, we should also include Dissidia Omnia, Brave Exvius etc, they are all played online by millions of players, therefore MMOs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroth View Post
    Why do you make this point? I was replying to what I quoted.
    Also, there are 3 FINAL FANTASY MMOs.
    Because you kept stressing it like it was some huge feat and one of your points were disputable as what's the "best" is pure opinion.

    Also what's the 3rd mmo? Because SE only has 3 mmos and the 3rd one is I believe Dragon Quest, which isn't Final Fantasy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OurMom View Post
    Because you kept stressing it like it was some huge feat and one of your points were disputable as what's the "best" is pure opinion.

    Also what's the 3rd mmo? Because SE only has 3 mmos and the 3rd one is I believe Dragon Quest, which isn't Final Fantasy.
    Read again.
    Someone said that there is already another FF MMO that does storytelling better than FFXIV.
    I said that there isn't.
    You replied what you replied. Next time you reply, have context please.


    Also, for the millionth time, FINAL FANTASY Type-0 Online. Read people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroth View Post
    Read again.
    Someone said that there is already another FF MMO that does storytelling better than FFXIV.
    I said that there isn't.
    Again, that's disputable, you keep saying it isn't but all of that is purely opinion

    Also, for the millionth time, FINAL FANTASY Type-0 Online. Read people.
    That's not what people consider an mmo, which is why if you google mmos by square enix (which is what I did when I saw your comment) only three comes up, one of which isn't FF.
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