We Really Need To Talk About The State And Path Of FFXIV

[Alleo]

Is that bad?

I don't know, I feel like the we have a reason to oppose Garleans at this point given what we've seen and with the power we have there is also a responsibility to make sure we're putting it to use. Hydalen didn't choose us for us to live a quaint life out in a cottage.

I know that in the end we would have to fight but imo it would feel better for me if we at least try to find out more about Ascians and the real important things instead of just finding some clues randomly along the way. Maybe they could have started SB with us refusing to join the rebels and going around to find a solution to a problem that was hinted by the WoD. Maybe even going out and trying to find the truth in all of this. While we do that the alliance suffers some losses and we see thanks to the echo what happens when Zenos comes in. Maybe along the way we find out that we need to stop this conflict because it could lead to bigger ones and thus calamities and then we take part in this. This way it feels a little less forced, at least for me.

[MoroMurasaki]

This way it feels a little less forced, at least for me.

I totally understand your direction there. I suppose it's a personal matter. Imagining myself in place of my character I would likely 'go with the flow' as she does because the idea of opposing all of the people directing us towards Ala Mhigo and Doma is intimidating.

Perhaps for a more assertive or solitary person your perspective might make more sense. I would certainly admire a WoL who made those sorts of choices - it's a sort if classical heroism... it just isn't how I would imagine Moro behaving.

I suppose they can't cater to all personality types and decision making styles.

[Alleo]

I totally understand your direction there. I suppose it's a personal matter. Imagining myself in place of my character I would likely 'go with the flow' as she does because the idea of opposing all of the people directing us towards Ala Mhigo and Doma is intimidating.

Perhaps for a more assertive or solitary person your perspective might make more sense. I would certainly admire a WoL who made those sorts of choices - it's a sort if classical heroism... it just isn't how I would imagine Moro behaving.

I suppose they can't cater to all personality types and decision making styles.

You are right with that and maybe I am just a bit annoyed by it because we just had ended a thousand years old war, had lost quite some friends (depending on your own view) and lets not forget all the pain that we suffered when we were betrayed at the end of 2.5. Maybe it would have been less like that if we had an expansion between it where we would just be adventurers, maybe even without certain NPCs to catch a bit of a breath and maybe with the intention of learning more about the world and its past. This way it just dont feel like war after war. I mean 5.0 seems to hint at Garlemald and that will probably end in another war.

[MoroMurasaki]

You are right with that and maybe I am just a bit annoyed by it because we just had ended a thousand years old war, had lost quite some friends (depending on your own view) and lets not forget all the pain that we suffered when we were betrayed at the end of 2.5. Maybe it would have been less like that if we had an expansion between it where we would just be adventurers, maybe even without certain NPCs to catch a bit of a breath and maybe with the intention of learning more about the world and its past. This way it just dont feel like war after war. I mean 5.0 seems to hint at Garlemald and that will probably end in another war.

This post has spoilers for current msq, don't read if you don't want them.

Well as I said earlier in another post I feel like as the WoL we are obligated to be using our power for something. An expansion where we just get to explore and learn about the world is also an expansion where things like the oppression by Garlemald and the scheming of the Ascians is left to fester.

I think at the start of 5.0 we are left with two primary directions - continue our assault on the Garleans or contend with the new Ascian plot. It's hard to tell at this point since we still have at least 4.4 and 4.5 msq additions coming but we are likely either pursuing 'the Elezen' or attempting to rescue Alphinaud.

I think we may see more of Zenos in SB and then head into The Burn come 5.0 if only because it seems incredibly unlikely they're adding a-new area outside of an expansion. If the pursuit of Alphie is delayed then Zenos is the obvious next step.

I will say this has been some of my favorite parts of the story since HW. It feels like we're growing up as a character and getting ready to face some of the true antagonists instead of getting bogged down in things like Ishgardian politics and Alliance drama.

Overall as much as it might be fun to have time to roam I don't think in our current situation it's the responsible thing for us to do, though I'll grant that perhaps I would feel differently if I wasn't constantly (in terms of the msq) thinking about all of these looming threats.

[Alleo]

This post has spoilers for current msq, don't read if you don't want them.

Well as I said earlier in another post I feel like as the WoL we are obligated to be using our power for something. An expansion where we just get to explore and learn about the world is also an expansion where things like the oppression by Garlemald and the scheming of the Ascians is left to fester.

I mean we were not chosen by Hydaelyn to defeat Garlemald but to defeat the Ascians and end their threat and I do question if we do enough for that part. For me it feels more like we are taking care of mortal conflicts and just find out that an Ascian is behind it and not trying to find the Ascians and deal with them. So we could still have a expansion were we try to find out more about them, maybe even stopping some of their plans and still be more of a adventurer. I mean even without a war we still can help people with our power.

But thats probably all subjective and I fear that we are just starting another war in the next one. My poor WoL will have a crisis if that stress is going on and on. x)'

[Edax]

You are right with that and maybe I am just a bit annoyed by it because we just had ended a thousand years old war, had lost quite some friends (depending on your own view) and lets not forget all the pain that we suffered when we were betrayed at the end of 2.5. Maybe it would have been less like that if we had an expansion between it where we would just be adventurers, maybe even without certain NPCs to catch a bit of a breath and maybe with the intention of learning more about the world and its past. This way it just dont feel like war after war. I mean 5.0 seems to hint at Garlemald and that will probably end in another war.

It would be great if the Garleans ends up absent in the next expansion. Just a smaller scale adventure in Koshu where the WoL gets more character focus/development would be a breathe of fresh air. This is one of the reasons I loved HW so much (I even have a framed poster on my wall), is that to start with, it shrank the character focus to just the WoL, Alphinaud and Tataru. Even though they got involved in the Dragonsong War, because they were never truly allied with Ishgard, to story remained focused. As a player, it really felt like I was affecting the plot and the fate of the people of Ishgard. And as a nice touch, HW ends with just the WoL, Alphinaud and Tataru at Haurchefant's grave sharing a nice character moment as the credits roll.
I miss that. In Stormblood, I feel too much like the Scion's henchman, Lyse's henchman and Lord Hien's henchman. It would be great to just hit the road with just a few character and have some trials and tribulations.

There needs to be more of this:


And much less of this:

How many Imperials have I already killed now? Dozens? Hundreds? Thousands?
From one reckoning to the next...to the next...to the next...to the next.