An Angry Letter About Eureka Pagos

[Brightamethyst]

It's meant to be difficult and time consuming to get a relic, and not to be just focused on fun.

Difficult and fun are not mutually exclusive.

Say what you want about difficulty and progress, but this is a game. In the end fun should trump just about everything. If it's not fun why should I do it? If an incredibly strong reward is the only incentive, fun be damned, then your event is badly designed and should be reworked until it is fun.

Edit: This statement is about things in general, not Eureka specifically.

[LeoLupinos]

Difficult and fun are not mutually exclusive.

Say what you want about difficulty and progress, but this is a game. In the end fun should trump just about everything. If it's not fun why should I do it? If an incredibly strong reward is the only incentive, fun be damned, then your event is badly designed and should be reworked until it is fun.

Edit: This statement is about things in general, not Eureka specifically.

This is relic, and not casual content. People must see me as a relic owner with "oh, that guy has a relic, that is a difficult weapon to get". That's how I see relics from ARR and HW. Eureka is easy as it is now, I didn't take that long to get the relic, I've just done the right party setup, killed the right monsters for my EL, and here it is, my relic. I Hope Logos is a lot harder and gated behind a week limit.

And for the "fun", there's plenty of content that is already fun. Eureka was not meant to fill this "Fun" gap, and yes to be something unique and to fill the "we want a different content" gap. But as Yoshida said: "It kind of feels like even though people ask for change, they're upset when there is change". That's the truth with all these complains.

[Fawkes]

This is relic, and not casual content.

[LeoLupinos]

It's soo casual. Where's your relic? Do you already have it? =]

[Tsalmaveth]

It's soo casual. Where's your relic? Do you already have it? =]

What you seem to be missing is that the relics have ALWAYS been the more 'casual' weapons. Grindy, sure... but they were never the 'hardcore' weapons/content. Those were the raiding weapons. And the complaints about Pagos are pretty spot on, considering the developers have had to patch it multiple times now... Players across all, NA/EU/JP servers have been complaining about the content. It's fair to have an OPINION that 'oh well I thought it was fine' but an overwhelming majority have disliked how it has been presented, so SE is having to readjust it. Quickly. There's a reason for that. Another thing to consider is that previous relics had various means in which to grind out those steps that did not force the same sort of grind at all times, and that has also been a bone stuck in the player's craw here.

[Rocond]

It's soo casual. Where's your relic? Do you already have it? =]

Yep, and I watched Netflix the entire time.

[Glocktwenty]

It's soo casual. Where's your relic? Do you already have it? =]

What? I thought the hardcore content is the unending coil of bahamut... Since you consider yourself as a hardcore player? Where is your Ultimate Dreadwyrm weapon?

[Zeich]

What? I thought the hardcore content is the unending coil of bahamut... Since you consider yourself as a hardcore player? Where is your Ultimate Dreadwyrm weapon?

...Was a four-month necro-bump to get the last word really necessary?

[Rowde]

...Was a four-month necro-bump to get the last word really necessary?

Maybe they took a 4 month break?

[HyoMinPark]

...Was a four-month necro-bump to get the last word really necessary?

Apparently so.

At least I had a good laugh reading an old debate about how relics are apparently hard enough to require guides.