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    Quote Originally Posted by Amiral_Benson View Post
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    Those White Ravens, it's not about an exclusivity, it's about a trophy unlikely to occur more than once.
    ...And now the prize of one is handed out, not even as a replica.

    Something like this, in those conditions of a game on a countdown before shutting down, it's one of a kind.
    That's why it grieves those who sacrificed that much to get them, it's sad and underwhelming. People lampooning it is regrettable.
    But it may not be just "handed out". If it is, then yeah, I can agree with you, that would be in poor taste. But we don't know until the actual event occurs. IF we got to do the fight, as close as technically feasible, with the same item and character level, and we completed it successfully, would that not be close enough to the same thing?

    I mean.. would that be okay? Or is it the combination of "a very hard fight" + "servers shutting down and we won't get to experience this as it was"? (I'm legitimately asking, not trying to stir up drama).

    If that wouldn't be acceptable, what item from 1.0 COULD make a return and not face this backlash?
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    "We want bunny suits for guys!" -- OK! ✅
    "We want Ishgard housing!" -- OK! ✅
    "We want Viera!" -- OK! ✅
    "We want Cloud's motorcycle!" -- OK! ✅
    "We want Blue Mage!"-- OK! ✅
    "We want the ability to earn past Feast rewards!" - OK! ✅ to armor
    "... and mounts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormfur View Post
    But it may not be just "handed out". If it is, then yeah, I can agree with you, that would be in poor taste. But we don't know until the actual event occurs. IF we got to do the fight, as close as technically feasible, with the same item and character level, and we completed it successfully, would that not be close enough to the same thing?

    I mean.. would that be okay? Or is it the combination of "a very hard fight" + "servers shutting down and we won't get to experience this as it was"? (I'm legitimately asking, not trying to stir up drama).
    What would be totally okay, is something of the same overall difficulty.

    I'm comparing difficulties with the % of people who would manage to clear it. Since in 1.0 the % of 1.0 players winning the White Ravens was ridiculously minuscule, I would expect something similar.

    The closest I can think of is what Kharlan said, UCoB Milestone, not clearing entirely UCoB, but clearing Twintania and then Nael in UCoB, meaning the 6 first minutes of UCoB out of the 19 min.

    Not only % wise it's really close, as it should be a % way lower than Savage, but not as low as Ultimate, but where it makes all sense, is that these earrings are based on Nael 1.0 head piece armour.

    With this, story wise, lore wise it would make totally sense, plus anniversary wise and current content wise, it would also make totally sense, as UCoB got released recently and is still completely relevant.

    This would answer the legitimate demand of players who just asked to have a chance to get them as a real trophy as well, to earn it.

    But Stormfur, this upcoming Rising 2018, it's a level 15 event, that don't happens in STORMBLOOD, but that is available to people that just own ARR.

    If I was the developer, I would have addressed all this the following way, to make the 3 parties entirely happy, without needing to spend any game resources on it:
    • I would have put the original White Ravens as a reward for clearing Nael in Unending Coil of Bahamut (Ultimate), which means clearing those 6 first minutes of the fight.
      The % of players capable of doing that is close enough to the % of players who managed to win the White Ravens in 1.0.
      This would pleased the players who are just asking to get a fair chance of getting them as a real earned trophy (as well as putting more incentive to get into that fight).
    • I would have also made Replicas, that I would have handed during the event, for people asking them for Glamour.

    1.0 players, ARR HW SB players asking a way to earn them as a real similar trophy, and people wanting them for glamour, would all be happy, they would not feel cheated, they would feel understood and supported, making the developer fairly enough trustworthy.
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