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  1. #351
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    Lissandra's Avatar
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    Lissandra Heartwine
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    Maybe I am the minority, but I am not even the slightest bit worried and I own a home myself. Had one since they were implemented and in all these years, I had never heard of such a supposed bug until now.
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  2. #352
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    Hyomin Park
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    Quote Originally Posted by worldofneil View Post
    As others have pointed out, it's not even confirmed there is an issue. But there's also no "just" about it. As we've seen before, turning the timer on and off requires maintenance, they can't just do it and I'm sure they don't want to take the game down unless they really have to.
    To be fair, they just took the game down last week to nerf the Bunny FATEs in Pagos and to fix an animation issue in Rathalos. And they're taking it down again on Aug 20 for more Pagos fixes (I'd wager, since they said future fixes would come in future hotfixes). I doubt to see this alleged issue addressed since its starting to seem like a ruse, but they can just take down the game whenever they want for whatever they want.
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  3. #353
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    To be fair, they just took the game down last week to nerf the Bunny FATEs in Pagos and to fix an animation issue in Rathalos. And they're taking it down again on Aug 20 for more Pagos fixes (I'd wager, since they said future fixes would come in future hotfixes). I doubt to see this alleged issue addressed since its starting to seem like a ruse, but they can just take down the game whenever they want for whatever they want.
    The important distinction here, I believe, is that they are willing to take it down for established, concrete problems. Not some vague reddit rumor that was highly suspect (imo) from the very beginning.
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  4. #354
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rymm View Post
    The important distinction here, I believe, is that they are willing to take it down for established, concrete problems. Not some vague reddit rumor that was highly suspect (imo) from the very beginning.
    I realize that. I'm just saying they're perfectly capable of taking down the game for maintenance whenever they want. And they certainly do it for more trivial things.
    The Bunny FATE is the least of Pagos' problems.
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  5. #355
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    The Pagos is the problem.
    FTFY
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  6. #356
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    How is this still going, it was obvious from the start that none of this was true.
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  7. #357
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    Altria Pendragons
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    Its just my opinion but even if those had all been lies or maybe wrong memories on how long they were away, SE should have still stopped the timer as soon as the first reports came in.
    No, no business in any size, western or eastern would take unconfirmed report as a fact and act immediately upon.
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  8. #358
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    No one I know has lost their houses (I only have third hand accounts of that), but I can confirm that one of my FC members got the demolition timer 4 days after last entering their house.

    For the people who are clamoring for more concrete proof on the forums: How? No one is going to take a screen shot every single time they enter their house and there is no good way to actually track that in-game.

    I do agree that those affected should submit bug reports though. Complaining on the forums without submitting a bug report is sort of not helpful.
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  9. #359
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    Cynehild Westknight
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    Its not hard to prove the demo timer isn't resetting. Go into your house and pull up the estate settings menu to show its your house and pull up the timer window next to it which will show it hasn't reset. Any given character can only have 3 estates types with a demo timer (FC, personal, shared) and the timer explicitly tells you which its for. While you can have more than one shared estate, its not a timer you can reset so thats a moot point for this discussion.

    And as you said, if you aren't making a bug report for it then its a non issue. Either people are lying or they just don't care and are only trying to stir up problems.

    As for historical usage, there are records of that in the database. If you did own a house there recently then the devs can find that information, however they will also be able to see it was lost through the demo timer; that part is easy. The hard part is trying to verify if the demo timer worked correctly which would take a more in depth look at the log files for the server and thats what the bug reports are for. The bug reports give them a place to start and refine the search which would otherwise be an impossibly large haystack with a really small needle.
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  10. #360
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    Hyomin Park
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alien_Gamer View Post
    Its not hard to prove the demo timer isn't resetting. Go into your house and pull up the estate settings menu to show its your house and pull up the timer window next to it which will show it hasn't reset. Any given character can only have 3 estates types with a demo timer (FC, personal, shared) and the timer explicitly tells you which its for. While you can have more than one shared estate, its not a timer you can reset so thats a moot point for this discussion.
    Demolition timers won't appear until your estate (or one you share) reaches the 10-day mark before it will be demolished. So checking the timers won't really show you if said timer is resetting or not. At least not until an estate reaches the point where the timer stops being invisible and becomes visible.

    That being said, this appears to be little more than a ruse, since people are not coming forward with legitimate information despite being asked repeatedly.
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    Last edited by HyoMinPark; 08-20-2018 at 08:00 AM.
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