Its time to remove job-based glamour restrictions.

[Nixxe]

You mean role based glamour right?

It's not really role based though. Melee DPS have three different sets.

[Fredco191]

It's not really role based though. Melee DPS have three different sets.

You’re right. But that was kind of my way of saying “Don’t unlock AF gear.”

[Gemina]

It's not really role based though. Melee DPS have three different sets.

They are all subsets of the DPS role. DPS jobs are not like healers and tanks because they can be categorized into caster/melee/ranged etc. All healers are casters, and all tanks are melee fighters.

[Nixxe]

They are all subsets of the DPS role. DPS jobs are not like healers and tanks because they can be categorized into caster/melee/ranged etc. All healers are casters, and all tanks are melee fighters.

I don't really care how you think they should be counted or classified. It doesn't change the fact that the gear isn't role based.

[Gemina]

I don't really care how you think they should be counted or classified. It doesn't change the fact that the gear isn't role based.

It's not how I think though, it's just a fact. You can choose to accept it or not. DPS is the ONLY role with the jobs therein are further broken down. Pull up your character screen and it's right in your face. If you're implying that DPS gear is actually more job restrictive because of this categorization of the jobs, then I get it. But all of them except NIN share gear with a least one other job. To a certain extent, DRG as well, but a lot of their gear can also be used/glamoured by tanks.

[Nixxe]

It's not how I think though, it's just a fact. You can choose to accept it or not. DPS is the ONLY role with the jobs therein are further broken down. Pull up your character screen and it's right in your face. If you're implying that DPS gear is actually more job restrictive because of this categorization of the jobs, then I get it. But all of them except NIN share gear with a least one other job. To a certain extent, DRG as well, but a lot of their gear can also be used/glamoured by tanks.

Speaking of facts, it is a fact that the gear is not role locked. That is the beginning and end of my point. If you choose to over complicate things, that's your own problem.

[Claire_Pendragon]

It's not how I think though, it's just a fact. You can choose to accept it or not. DPS is the ONLY role with the jobs therein are further broken down. Pull up your character screen and it's right in your face. If you're implying that DPS gear is actually more job restrictive because of this categorization of the jobs, then I get it. But all of them except NIN share gear with a least one other job. To a certain extent, DRG as well, but a lot of their gear can also be used/glamoured by tanks.

Im not quite following what you're saying btw.

There's gear thats tanks and DRGs
There's gear thats healer and casters.

So I can only assume u mean gear within a group, such as within tanks? but then id say there's gear thats DRK only, WAR only, and PLD only.
The rings in Brayflox are examples of this as well. (excluding AFs, and the most obvious, weapons)

Unrelated.
I should also mention all Dated gear from 1.0, wasnt class/job locked then, and after the update remained unlocked, and could be glamoured by anyone who still owns the gear. I have chainmail that can be glamoured to any class, and leather armor.
(Sadly didnt get enough gil to buy the platemail in time, before the update, was 500k short)
Wish I could make/buy that stuff again, just for glamour as well.

[Gemina]

Im not quite following what you're saying btw.

There's gear thats tanks and DRGs
There's gear thats healer and casters.

So I can only assume u mean gear within a group, such as within tanks?

It started about a page back where a poster attempted to correct the OP by saying they meant "role" based gear in reference to the header. Most people are in agreement that Job based gear should not be shared such as our AF. It was then commented that they are not role based as melee DPS have three different sets. All I said, was they all still fall under the DPS 'role'. They most certainly don't belong to tank or healer, which are the other two of three roles. So whether process of elimination or deductive reasoning, the logic can't be disputed, but it was anyway.

I posted a more complex breakdown of the DPS role when it was further disputed that gear isn't role based, when nearly all of it is. Tanks have their own gear. Healers have their own gear, and DPS have their own gear. I am sorry if there is any confusion, but I am not sure why there is?

[Nixxe]

I am sorry if there is any confusion, but I am not sure why there is?

There's no confusion. You're just wrong and haven't figured it out yet. Role locked gear would be shared within a role, but monks can't share with bards can't share with black mages. That's because the gear isn't locked based on role, rather on primary stat and some vague notion of armor class. The groupings that are common in endgame gear aren't the only ones either, and presumably not the only ones the OP wants removed. There are also Disciple of War/Magic restrictions, as well as shared DRG/tank armor. Again, this is because the armor in this game isn't role locked.

Also, even if you had used deductive reasoning (you used inductive), deductive reasoning absolutely can be disputed as either invalid or unsound. I'm not sure why you'd think otherwise if you had any idea what it actually means and weren't just invoking it to try to give your argument an air of authority.

[Fredco191]

At the very least I want crafter and gatherer gear unlocked.